April 9, 2025

RHOA-The Fallout of Kenya's Event

RHOA-The Fallout of Kenya's Event

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RHOA-The Fallout of Kenya's Event

Summary

In this episode recap of Real Housewives of Atlanta, the hosts discuss the latest developments in the series, focusing on the dynamics between the cast members, particularly Angela and her daughter Amari, as well as the tensions surrounding Kenya's fashion show. The conversation delves into the implications of personal conflicts, apologies, and the role of production in shaping the narrative. The hosts express their thoughts on the impact of these events on the season and speculate on the future of the show. In this conversation, Kelli and Wendy discuss the fallout from Kenya's controversial event, the dynamics of various Housewives shows, and the potential for recasting. They explore the impact of production on the cast's behavior, the current status of different shows, and express excitement for upcoming series while critiquing past and present cast members.

Takeaways

  • The episode highlights the ongoing tensions between cast members.
  • Angela's relationship with her daughter Amari is explored in depth.
  • Kenya's fashion show serves as a backdrop for personal conflicts.
  • Britt's apology to Kenya is met with resistance and tension.
  • The hosts discuss the implications of production's involvement in the drama.
  • The conversation reflects on the impact of these events on the season's narrative.
  • The hosts express concern over the direction of the show.
  • Cynthia's response to the controversy is noted as significant.
  • The hosts speculate on the future of cast members amidst the drama.
  • The episode raises questions about the ethics of reality TV production. Kenya's event was poorly managed and had significant repercussions.
  • The influence of production on cast dynamics is a recurring theme.
  • Recasting is necessary for the longevity of reality shows.
  • Summer House needs a younger cast to stay relevant.
  • The current state of various Housewives shows is uncertain.
  • Kelli and Wendy share their opinions on cast members' behavior.
  • The conversation highlights the hypocrisy often seen in reality TV.
  • Excitement for upcoming shows is tempered by concerns over cast choices.
  • The impact of personal relationships on cast dynamics is significant.
  • Fans have strong opinions about who should return to reality TV.

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Wendy (00:01.718)
Hi, how was your day? It was.

Kelli (00:03.627)
It was good. It was good. Long day in the office, but that's all right. Stye is still here. So I think he's going to be a permanent resident possibly. No, God forbid. Yeah, it better go. How about you? How was your day?

Wendy (00:11.022)
Still rocking that sty.

Wendy (00:15.846)
No, that'd be horrible. It was wet and cold and rainy and muddy. know, another beautiful day in Jersey.

Kelli (00:23.445)
Yeah, yeah. I do think tomorrow is going to be sunny, not very warm, but sunny. So listen, we'll take what we can get right now.

Wendy (00:34.264)
Definitely will take what we can get. So let's talk about Real Housewives of Atlanta, season 16, episode number five, About Last Night. Whoa, that's all I can say. Whoa.

Kelli (00:49.367)
The dinner wasn't the night prior, right? No, cause we- It was the night prior?

Wendy (00:51.978)
It was. The vault, yeah, it started out that way. Yeah, because in beginning of the episode, we start where they all go over to Shemeah's house.

Kelli (01:03.055)
okay, so that's what I mean. Like it wasn't the night prior to Kenya's opening. Got it. But it was the night prior to them starting to shoot. Okay.

Wendy (01:07.103)
Right, no, no.

Prior, yes, yes, yeah, yeah. So they go over, goes over to Shemeah's house and they cheers to new beginnings because she had apologized. Shemeah showed up at Angela's party and with an apology and flowers, which was the right thing to do. And then Britt comes over and they're all talking about last night and Britt said she didn't sleep.

you know, about last night. And she was like, she didn't sleep either. Like, why didn't you sleep? She's like, because she got a lot of backlash from the owner of the venue, because it was her party, which I can only imagine.

Kelli (01:42.241)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not nice, put her in that position.

Wendy (01:47.994)
No, no. she, know, Britt was very apologetic, you know, and she means like, well, what was really going on? And Britt said, you know, at the table, Kenya kept cutting me off and like, yeah, you know, I saw that was happening. And we find out that Angela actually wrote down the question. I thought, yeah, I thought it was Britt that wrote it down.

Kelli (02:09.379)
She said that.

Brit wrote the other one down. She wrote one down, the first one she asked Kenya, which I can't remember. But Brit said, I didn't even write this question, the one about speaking kindly to Brit. I was surprised it was Angela, but it made sense after she said it because when they went on that walk, they talked about it. So then it made sense.

Wendy (02:22.752)
Right. Right. Right.

Wendy (02:30.702)
Right, right. Then Angela says she wrote the question down because of the walk and she felt the energy was off between the two of them. And Britt said, well, I would never harm anyone. She'd never hurt Kenya. The ladies tell her that she needs to let Kenya know that. And then Shemeah asked,

Kelli (02:52.899)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (02:56.786)
Angela, if she asked Charles last night about what Portia said and what she was referring to, and she's like, no, I left it alone. She said, let's get this clear, I'm married to a celebrity and my DMs are full. There's not that much that's gonna get me flustered, which I agree. I agree with her.

Kelli (03:13.975)
That's right. I agree too.

Wendy (03:17.71)
The next we see Kenya's store and Portia shows up and said that, Portia said like in the confessional that her and Kenya have had their ups and downs, but they're on a good trajectory right now. And they do show some of the tension between them over the years. Yeah, exactly, exactly. And she's glad to see that things are going well.

Kelli (03:34.221)
Bye, Ashy.

Wendy (03:43.466)
So, Keniel's looking for models. I didn't realize she was doing this whole big production. mean, they're, Portia's there and, you know, they're looking at the models and who else was there? Kelly, that's right, Kelly shows up. She, know, it's, at first I didn't know the difference between Kelly and Brit, but Kelly is so darn tiny. Like, I mean, now, tiny. She is so tiny.

Kelli (03:48.289)
Me neither.

Kelli (03:59.181)
Kelly.

Kelli (04:07.747)
She is little.

Because none of them are su- I mean, Cynthia's very tall. Cynthia's very tall. Well, yes, yes, yes, yes. But... Probably. But- but Kelly just looks tiny next to anybody.

Wendy (04:15.498)
Yeah. Well, so is Kenya. Kenya's tall. And I think Angela's tall, to be quite honest with you. I mean, she's married to an NBA, like.

I wonder if she would look tiny next to Candy because Candy was tiny. Right? Kelly's tiny. that's right. Kelly was there.

Kelli (04:30.947)
question. Yeah.

Yeah, when the models were coming out, she said we're gonna give them shampoo bottles so they can act like a bottle girl. That was cute. Hype them up.

Wendy (04:40.384)
Yeah. Yeah, that was cute. Yeah. So they start talking about what had happened and Portia said Kenya disengaged, you know, from the table and she did. She did get up and walk away. And then Portia said Kenya told her about the pistol comments. And Kelly's like, well, I don't, you know, I don't think that Britt would do anything like that. And Kenya got like all indignant.

Kelli (04:51.458)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Wendy (05:09.354)
I know what I heard. And then she's like, okay. And she's like, well, I don't think that what I know of hers is, you she's never acted that way.

Kelli (05:19.405)
But she did say it. She said, I got whips and a pistol. She said it, because they played it when the episode started. Because I said, I don't remember hearing her say that. And maybe we didn't hear her say it last week, but they played it this week and she definitely said it.

Wendy (05:24.28)
Yeah.

Wendy (05:34.988)
Yes, yes, yeah. Kelly's like, she's not that kind of person. Kelly said, Kenya said, you can't tell me the kind of person she is. And Kelly said, well then we'll let her show you. And Kenya's like, well, she'll have to do that from afar. Which listen, if she felt that way, then she should have just uninvited her.

Kelli (05:55.939)
100%.

Wendy (05:57.792)
Like she should have just uninvited her. I just... I don't get it. I so don't get it.

Kelli (06:00.706)
Yes.

the punishment did not fit the crime here. I know we'll get to it, but it did not fit the crime. Sorry. I have a different outlook on it now.

Wendy (06:07.86)
Yeah. Yeah. Kelly said, I've never seen her act in that manner. Portia says to Kenya, she needs to do her due diligence. And Kenya's like, yeah, I'm going to run a background check. And Kelly's like, well, maybe you want to do a background check on your employees here. In her confessional, she said that. Which I was like, OK.

Kelli (06:31.863)
Yeah.

Alright.

Wendy (06:36.046)
Then we see Angela and her daughter Amari. This was a very interesting conversation. So Amari is 24 and they meet up at the coffee shop and Amari lost her father when she was seven years old and he was murdered in Chicago.

Kelli (06:42.989)
So interesting.

Kelli (06:53.793)
Yeah. wonder, Angela didn't really say if she was still with him at the time though, right? She just said, I then became a single mother. So at least we know if she and he weren't together anymore, he was in Amari's life. Right.

Wendy (07:00.94)
Yeah.

Wendy (07:06.676)
Right, Yeah, single mom for a very long time and they had a very, you know, a super tight bond. Amari asks her mom, you know, I want to get down to the nitty gritty of it all. Why isn't grandma here? Cause you know, she was supposed to be here and Angela's like, well, that kind of blew up the last minute. Like she was supposed to be here. She said that I got a call from grandma saying you need to talk to your daughter. And she said like,

what happened. So then Amari goes on to tell her that she went to grandma's house to use her car and she didn't think it was a problem because Angela had provided the car for the grandmother. And all of a sudden the sister gets involved, Angela's sister, and says that they wanted money from me. Her sister got in her face and called her a demon and told her that everybody in the house can fuck them. Like, where did that

come from.

Kelli (08:05.345)
would stop the checks Angela stop the checks

Wendy (08:08.448)
Well, the interesting thing is, I mean, we're only in episode five and we did already find out that Charles and her mother were not getting along and Charles is supporting them.

Kelli (08:17.697)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Don't talk to my kid like that and then expect me to keep writing the checks.

Wendy (08:26.454)
Right, exactly. And Angela's like, Amari's like, this is all because I wanted to use the car. Like, there was no reason for this. Right, exactly. Angela said she should have told me the minute that happened because she had no idea. You know, she didn't expect that from her family. and Amari's like, she didn't either. Like, literally, I helped them with everything. They need help with the bills. I dropped, like, I'm there. They're back in call. They need me. I go. And so do you.

Kelli (08:35.415)
car that Angela bought.

Kelli (08:53.195)
Right, right, so not only is Angela doing that and providing the financial comfort, but her daughter's helping them with other stuff.

Wendy (08:58.231)
Right!

Yeah. Then we find out that Amara used to live in that house that she bought for her mother and her sister, but it got so bad that she had to move out. Now that, that should have been like, I think for Angela, that should have been the first clue that things weren't going well there, right?

Kelli (09:05.387)
Mmm.

Kelli (09:19.629)
Yes. Yes.

Wendy (09:21.358)
I mean, I liked that Angela, you know, right away said, you know, I wanted to be there for my mother, but the fact that she didn't defend you, now I have to defend my daughter, you know, even though you are 25. And she's like, no, I'm 24. Yes. I mean, I don't know. I feel bad for Angela. I feel like this whole situation really put, you know, a riff in their relationship because

Kelli (09:32.387)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (09:37.879)
She got married without telling her.

Kelli (09:50.371)
Yeah.

Wendy (09:51.916)
you know, who gets married and doesn't tell their mother when they were that close? And the grandmother knew, and the grandmother knew.

Kelli (09:55.917)
Yeah, I know. That's the thing. I didn't know that part. She said that the grandmother knew?

Wendy (10:02.094)
Yeah, because that's how she found out. That's how Angela found out. I know. I know.

Kelli (10:05.475)
That's... well that's even worse then!

Kelli (10:11.757)
Yikes.

Wendy (10:12.64)
Yeah, that's where I felt like, you know.

Kelli (10:18.243)
You could tell though Amari at some point wanted to stop talking about it on camera though. Cause Angela was like, all right, all right, we're good, we're good.

Wendy (10:23.896)
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, they kind of left it at, know, our communication's broken and like we need to, we need to just fix it and move forward. And I hope we get to see more of that, not that, but I hope we get to see them like, you know, moving forward.

Kelli (10:35.115)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (10:42.197)
Yeah, for sure.

Wendy (10:43.886)
Then we see Porsche meets up with Britt and Britt felt like it was tone death what Kenya was doing that she thought that she was targeting her. But she admitted.

Kelli (10:55.427)
She says she thought that they were cool and then she thinks Kenya plays it up in front of the group. and then Portia said nobody thought Kenya was being shady. And honestly, I don't personally think Kenya is the type of person to play anything up for anybody. She either, like, you're either cool with her or you're not.

Wendy (11:00.685)
Right.

Wendy (11:10.882)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (11:16.27)
I mean, the comment that she made about the ring, I think it... No. Right.

Kelli (11:21.237)
It was, there was not, there was nothing shady about it. And I think that's what Portia meant. Like nobody thought she was being shady when you asked, when she asked you that.

Wendy (11:29.218)
Right.

But I mean, did admit that she went too far. She said, you know, she said, you know, I went too far. And Portia said the back and forth of the table was not a big deal. But then when, you know, Kenya disengaged and you said something about a pistol, Britt said, well, that was, you know, not the time for me to talk about a pistol, you think? Yeah. No, I don't really think there is a good time to talk about a pistol. I want to 100 % apologize. I was wrong.

Kelli (11:34.785)
Yeah.

Kelli (11:52.707)
It's really never a good time, Brit.

Kelli (11:57.505)
Nah.

Wendy (12:01.472)
Okay, well you definitely were. And that whole meeting up was just for Portia to do her investigating, her due diligence for Kenya. That's what that was all about.

Kelli (12:13.027)
I think Britt should have called Kenya like did she call her like don't just show up at the event like cuz Kenya's not the one She me doing that with Angela Angela's a new housewife Kenya you she should have called her and been like listen, I'm

Wendy (12:15.841)
I do too.

Wendy (12:24.704)
Right.

Wendy (12:30.208)
Yeah, she should have. Or texted her or something. Right, something.

Kelli (12:31.947)
Yeah. If you don't want me there, I won't come, but I, I was wrong.

Wendy (12:38.464)
Right. Or something.

Kelli (12:40.824)
something.

Wendy (12:43.832)
So then we see Angela asks, because Angela's getting ready to go and she's asking Charles some questions. He's in the kitchen making his chicken and she's asking, know, should I wear this? Should I wear that? And he's really not wanting to pick out her clothes.

Kelli (12:57.741)
He's really dismissive with her.

Wendy (12:59.828)
He is, but you know what? I don't think that my husband would be telling me what to wear when he's in the kitchen cooking chicken.

Kelli (13:07.989)
No, and even when she was like, do you wanna go? You'll be the only man there. Like obviously he doesn't wanna go. I don't know, I just felt like he was really like disengaged and not, I don't know if he necessarily wants to be there.

Wendy (13:13.163)
No.

Wendy (13:21.032)
I felt like she was trying to pull him into something that he didn't want to be a part of. Right. Because then she did mention about what Portia said when she said that she wasn't going to. And his response to that was like, well, you need to handle that because, you know, you know the deal. And I think he was right. I think he was right.

Kelli (13:25.409)
he wants no part of.

Kelli (13:32.448)
Bye.

Right.

Kelli (13:42.443)
Right. yeah, I mean, he certainly can't get involved. He's not gonna go fight Porsche about it. That's for sure.

Wendy (13:49.158)
No, no. But then even after that, like after that whole thing, then she starts telling him that there's a problem with her mom and her sister. I'm like, No, especially on camera. I mean.

Kelli (13:57.109)
Yeah, that he definitely didn't want to engage in that.

Kelli (14:02.539)
Right, right, because there's clearly some real tension there.

Wendy (14:07.04)
Right, right. So then we see, I have a question. Kelly gets on the bus, right? And she's got Big Kenny with her. On the bus, it's got her name. Is that her own bus? That's what I'm saying. Like, does she have her own bus? Because if she does, that is baller. I want a Wendy bus. Can we get a Wendy bus? How cool is that?

Kelli (14:20.383)
I know. Is this her bus?

Kelli (14:31.605)
That's how I spell my name. Yeah, I thought the same thing. Does she have her own bus with her own driver? I mean, she does have a lot of kids. Maybe she does have her own bus.

Wendy (14:43.182)
I, listen, I would like a wee whine whenever bus. my gosh, we could go on the road with this show. Coming to a city near you.

Kelli (14:46.673)
that'd be amazing.

Kelli (14:51.075)
We could take the show on the road.

Kelli (14:58.701)
And I don't like to fly, so I'd be so good with the bus. Yeah.

Wendy (14:59.022)
Well, we would need the driver too. Listen, I'll take a big Kenny too. Why not? I mean, he's taken, but we can get our own version. Maybe we get a big Bill.

Kelli (15:06.467)
Sure, Yeah, I mean, I don't think anybody's threatening us, but whatever.

Wendy (15:12.974)
Yeah. Or maybe we can get Big Bill to drive. So I love that whole bus thing, but she's going to pick up Britt. And then we see Cynthia arrives and Shemeah and they're outside of the venue waiting for Kenya to arrive, which, okay.

Kelli (15:16.845)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (15:31.931)
Somebody's like, Shemeah, this is for Kenya. She's like, I thought this was all for me. She is very funny.

Wendy (15:35.63)
She is, and there was a lot of people out there. And the press that was there, mean, there was a lot of interviewers and a lot of press going on for that event. Kenya shows up and then we see Miss Lawrence, haven't seen Miss Lawrence in quite a while.

Kelli (15:41.207)
Yeah, there was a lot of people out there.

Kelli (15:50.178)
Yeah.

Kelli (15:55.139)
And he thanks Kenya for helping him make it in the industry. I that was so nice. Yeah, I was happy to see Ms. Lawrence.

Wendy (15:59.658)
I did too, and she, I was too, and she actually thanked him on Instagram today too. Yes, thanked, yes. Then Britt shows up bringing the flowers and a card. She wants to make things right, but Kenya hasn't quite seen her yet.

Kelli (16:09.325)
Can ya?

Kelli (16:24.067)
Did you hear Kelly and Britt in the bus? They said they're going to be friends until the wheels fall off.

Wendy (16:29.352)
no, I missed that. yeah, they definitely fell off. Kelly had her back though. Something else must have happened. Kenya asks if you've ever seen, what was it? Bronner Brothers hair battle? Braumer? I don't know what it was. A hair battle, a something brothers hair battle.

Kelli (16:30.499)
think the wheels fell off. Yeah. She did have her back, so it's interesting that they're not talking now. Something else, yeah.

Kelli (16:51.775)
I didn't hear the reference.

Wendy (16:56.422)
I hadn't seen it, but everyone there had and they're like, we're going old school and they kind of showed. And then all of a sudden the models come out with all these great crazy hair. I loved that. Yeah, I thought that was awesome. Yeah. So then Kenya wanted to do it Apollo theater styles that you just clap for the one that you think is the best and the big one, the big one one. I don't know what you'd call it. Yes, kind of.

Kelli (17:05.9)
The one with the wings. That was amazing.

Kelli (17:20.515)
Yeah. Yeah. It was like a Marie Antoinette, like a, yeah.

Wendy (17:26.082)
like had like a perfume bottle or something in it. Whatever it was, it was beautiful. Then Drew came in and gave Kenya flowers. That was a little awkward too. We also find out that on the bus, yeah, was that, yeah, on the bus that Britt's aunt had passed away this week and that she had a stroke and it was her father's sister. And she feels like she's like in a weird place. I was like.

Kelli (17:28.235)
Yeah, yeah, yeah

Mm-hmm.

Kelli (17:48.183)
Yeah.

Kelli (17:55.651)
Yeah, it's about to get even more weird.

Wendy (17:55.926)
because yeah. Then Kenya goes over and tells Angela she was very appreciative for her reaching out to her after the event and that she was the only one that reached out to her.

Kelli (18:09.623)
Yeah, that was interesting. Like not even Porsche? I find it hard to believe too.

Wendy (18:12.142)
I find that hard to believe.

Because we see Portia talking to her the next day with Kelly, right? Okay, just saying. And then, so Portia is telling Cynthia what happened at Angela's party and.

Kelli (18:20.257)
Yeah. Right. Yeah.

Wendy (18:38.062)
Britt is saying that she's going to apologize and Porsche is saying that Kenya may not be ready to accept that apology and Cynthia is kind of saying the same thing, you know.

Kelli (18:47.873)
Yeah, you should have did it already. It should have been done. Before you showed your face, it should have been done.

Wendy (18:50.574)
Yeah. Right. So as soon as Kenya sees Britt, she like goes upstairs. Like she sees her and she goes upstairs. Drew goes up to Porsche and she's trying to talk to her and Porsche says like, use your common sense. Why didn't you just make a phone call? I think she did. I know she did.

Kelli (19:13.963)
She did.

Wendy (19:16.696)
Like she did make a phone call. She sent you text messages. She made a phone call. She had an appointment. You guys set a date and you canceled.

Kelli (19:18.349)
Yeah!

Kelli (19:22.389)
Yeah, the, Porsche's, excuse, you can't even count the excuses anymore. I mean, we saw the text messages. That's, that's as good as a phone call. And she probably did call her too. Yeah.

Wendy (19:27.724)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I agree. then, you I'm sure she did. I'm sure she did. you know, Portia wasn't even letting her talk. So she was like, I tried and she walked away. And I think that that was the right thing to do.

Kelli (19:42.274)
Mm-mm.

Kelli (19:46.371)
for sure. And now leave it. Just leave it.

Wendy (19:48.704)
Right, just let it be. Right, don't mention it again. Just coexist. Like you guys can just coexist.

Kelli (19:53.847)
Yep. Yep. I wouldn't film with Dennis anymore. But personally, I wouldn't film with Dennis anymore because I wouldn't want to give Portia any ammunition against me. You know what I'm saying?

Wendy (20:06.934)
Me? Yeah.

Kelli (20:10.125)
But I mean, if she has nobody else to film with, then I guess she has to. Yeah, I mean.

Wendy (20:13.752)
She filmed with Ralph and I mean she can film with other people. Why can't she film with Britt? Why can't she? I mean.

Kelli (20:19.478)
other producers.

Kelli (20:23.415)
Yeah, film with some of the girls. We like barely see her film with the girls, except when they were in the studio. Like you're not in the studio every day all day long, maybe, but do something else then.

Wendy (20:27.146)
Right. Right. I mean, she doesn't.

Exactly. Yeah. So then Britt goes over to Kenya and says, just want to apologize. And she has the flowers and Kenya just totally ignores her.

Kelli (20:37.411)
because I still haven't heard you on the radio. So do something else.

Kelli (20:48.899)
ignores her.

Wendy (20:50.232)
So Britt says, okay, I'm just gonna leave. And she starts like saying goodbye to everybody and then she leaves. Meanwhile, Kenya is saying, you know, can I get everyone's attention? And.

She says it a couple times and by the time she gets everyone's attention, Britt is outside, right? Britt was outside. Yeah, she was outside. Right, right. So Kenya says, this has been a labor of love for me. I'm doing this for my daughter. And then I have people who are trying to bring me down and I'm sick of it. Britt is outside talking to Kelly saying that she just wanted to apologize and she tried.

Kelli (21:09.795)
Yes, she's gone. she, she walked out the building. She left the building.

Kelli (21:30.839)
don't think Kelly was out there yet. Or was Kelly out there and came back in? Because Kelly didn't leave until the posters came out.

Wendy (21:33.55)
I think she was out there. Yeah, no, I think she was out there and then came back in. Yeah.

Kelli (21:40.396)
Okay.

Britt did the right thing by leaving though.

Wendy (21:45.706)
She definitely did. Then Kenya's still inside saying that there was a situation when we were at dinner and there was a person that was looking for a moment. The person that brought me these fake flowers, give them to some homeless guy outside, it's fake. And she's like trying to, and then that's when Kelly, cause she was back in at that point, Kelly's like, grab the, she's like, I mean, what? Like.

Kelli (22:10.851)
This is a labor of love that you've worked on for four years. So you're gonna take this moment to talk about it and talk about some girl you just met who gave you a hard time one night? Like what are you doing? This made absolutely no sense to me and this is my whole outlook on it. I mean, I still like Kenya, but I can't believe she did what she did. I just feel so differently about it.

Wendy (22:12.842)
Right. Right.

Wendy (22:18.7)
Right.

Wendy (22:25.377)
Right.

Wendy (22:38.071)
I

Yeah, it didn't make any sense.

Kelli (22:42.837)
It didn't make any sense. then, you know, like, so I, like I said before, I thought pictures were hanging all over, which wouldn't have made sense. So production didn't know what she was doing. I mean, maybe they did.

Wendy (22:54.238)
Well, wait a second. So Kelly says, at least let me keep the card. So she like grabbed the card and then Kenya's like, no, don't keep the card, burn that shit. But I did read what you just said about production. I did read, I don't know if it's true today. I read that production is the one who gave Kenya all this information. And

Kelli (23:21.389)
Well, so, cause I'm gonna say Kenya is spending the money on a private investigator. And that's why I wrote here, my question did, where did Kenya get the money to hire a private investigator? And was it Bodito?

Wendy (23:30.123)
Right.

Wendy (23:35.796)
Yeah, it was a Po-Deedle. I read this. I don't know if it's true that the production is the one who gave her the information and there was no intention of dismissing her, but Britt lawyered up and was going after them. So supposedly, don't know if it's true, they dismissed her with pay.

Kelli (23:45.155)
I don't doubt it.

Kelli (24:02.091)
sure they did. I'm sure they did. That's interesting.

Wendy (24:05.64)
So I think it's interesting too. I don't know if it's true, but when I read that, was like, if this is what they did.

Kelli (24:15.305)
If that's true, I mean, those producers are disgusting people, disgusting. And I hope that Brit, I hope she walks away from the show and continues her lawsuit against them. Because we didn't see what was on those posters, but everybody in that building did.

Wendy (24:22.858)
I would say so.

Wendy (24:38.104)
Yeah, they sure did. And now it's all online too.

Kelli (24:41.685)
And it was so bad that every castmate walked out and didn't even want to talk about it on camera. Like, Portia was like, turn the camera down. I'm not. They all walked out in disgust. mean, who said, even Shamiah. Shamiah was like, Kenya, that's going too far. And she's like, don't tell me that's going too far. No, Kenya, that's going too far.

Wendy (24:54.552)
Yeah.

Wendy (25:00.471)
Yeah.

Wendy (25:07.33)
I was going too far.

Kelli (25:07.777)
I'm sure you've given oral sex too in your life. Would you like somebody blowing it up on a poster board and passing it around a room? That's fucked up. I mean, isn't that like porn distribution or something? Like honestly.

Wendy (25:16.312)
That. Yeah.

Wendy (25:25.58)
I don't know, but.

Kelli (25:26.817)
I don't think that's legal what she did. And if production's behind it? Yikes.

Wendy (25:34.52)
I just think it is so messy. It's just so messy. know, Cynthia was on Watch What Happens Live. Did you happen to watch it? So, and she said that, you know, first of all, she hasn't spoken to Kenya. She hasn't spoken to Kenya since that night. She said she reached out to her and via text, but she hasn't talked to her. she, know, Kenya knows that if she...

Kelli (25:39.532)
Yeah.

Kelli (25:45.142)
I didn't.

Kelli (25:51.703)
She hasn't?

Whoa, I'm surprised.

Wendy (26:04.128)
needs her, she'll be there, you know, no, she hasn't spoken to her, but what she said, and I thought it was so true, they did such a good job. Like it took them so long to get this season out. They did such a good job casting this season, and by episode five, they blew it up. Like they ruined the season. They ruined the season. It's episode five.

Kelli (26:18.861)
Yeah.

Kelli (26:24.099)
Yeah. Yeah.

Well, from what we understand though, Phaedra comes in, I mean, dare I say, and saves the season. Like that's what people are saying and people being Andy Cohen. But I guess we'll see for ourselves, but yeah, I agree. mean.

Wendy (26:43.502)
But she's very controversial too because of what happened with her.

Kelli (26:48.58)
I know she is, but honestly, I agree with them letting Kenya go now. And now that I think about it, I don't think Kenya's coming back. I don't think we're gonna see Kenya back. Certainly not if there's litigation. We're not gonna see her back if there's litigation. But my whole perspective changed last night, because I was Team Kenya going into this, because I thought Britt was acting a fool, but...

And I still think she was. I still think she was way overboard with everything. But Kenya, what are you doing? That was way too much.

Wendy (27:23.04)
It just, she ruined her own event. She ruined her own event. Like you're the one taking money out of your daughter's mouth. I mean, Brett had nothing to do with this.

Kelli (27:27.594)
Exactly.

Yeah!

Kelli (27:35.265)
Yes, now you are 100%.

She went there to, remember last week I said, doesn't it look like she goes there to apologize? And she did. Again, she should have made the phone call prior to the event. That was stupid. But I guess she saw what Shemeah did with Angela. we're talking about two very different people here. She should have made the phone call sooner, but I'm sorry. The punishment did not fit the crime here. Kenya went way overboard.

Wendy (28:01.278)
No. No, it really... It was bad. mean, Porsche's exact words.

Kelli (28:08.247)
I mean somebody had to provide that picture to her, could you imagine if it was production?

Kelli (28:14.945)
Who else is getting that picture? I guess a private investigator. Bo Deedle. Bo Deedle could get the picture.

Wendy (28:20.462)
It's it's so they hold up the poster and then they put you know due to the graphic nature of these images you know Bravo has chosen not to to show them but then you hear Cynthia say ain't nobody want to see that girl suck in someone's dick. I was like okay. Thank you. Thank you.

Kelli (28:23.875)
you

Kelli (28:40.387)
...

Kelli (28:44.003)
Well, we'll make our own visual, won't we?

Wendy (28:48.846)
That's not what I was expecting, but okay. And then Portia says, literally, she said, I'm mortified. I'm not gonna stand there in support of this. And I'm glad that she didn't. I'm glad, listen, I like the way that Cynthia bowed out. I think what she did was the right thing to do. Yeah.

Kelli (28:53.109)
Now we know.

Kelli (29:07.523)
Absolutely.

I mean, all of them did. All of them did.

Wendy (29:13.792)
In her confessional, Cynthia said, like, what's lower than hell? What's worse than hell? Because that's where we're right now. We are right now. And she's right. That was bad.

Kelli (29:18.872)
Yeah.

Yeah, that was so, so bad.

Yeah, I don't think we're gonna see Kenya again.

Wendy (29:31.182)
And even after she saw everyone's expressions and people, no, she's like, so now I know who I can trust. Production? Who is it that you can trust because pretty much, who?

Kelli (29:36.003)
She's still been back down.

Kelli (29:44.413)
Exactly. Everybody thinks you were wrong. That you don't think you need to self-reflect when everyone thinks you're wrong.

Wendy (29:50.06)
Yeah.

Wendy (29:56.748)
Yeah, I would really love to know what is happening to the sales at her Kenyamore hair care salon.

Kelli (30:03.755)
Yeah, I'd like to know that too.

Wendy (30:05.834)
I mean, because everyone knows they knew about this when it happened. I mean, these are the locals.

Kelli (30:14.467)
can't believe she ruined her own event. She should have told her not to come and she should have did something somewhere else, something Kenya. You ruined your own event and you got yourself fired from the only paying gig you had.

Wendy (30:29.325)
Yeah.

Wendy (30:36.268)
I guess we'll see her. Yeah, she did. I think Porsche probably told her that too. I mean, maybe we'll see her on the House of Villains. I don't know what else she can do. No, no, not Traders because that's a Bravo show, right? It's a peacock. House of Villains is what? VH1, I think.

Kelli (30:36.417)
and Cynthia Tolkenya, you're better than that.

Kelli (30:42.787)
I'm sure she did.

Kelli (30:46.979)
We probably will see her on the House of Villains. Not traitors.

Kelli (30:56.781)
Yeah.

Kelli (31:00.319)
Yeah, yeah. And it's just cheesier. Let's face it. That's why Teresa was on it and not villain. How's the traders? But I mean, all of the ladies agreed that that was too low. All of them.

Wendy (31:02.734)
you

Wendy (31:17.868)
Yeah, I'm curious to see if we find out if it was. I mean, how are we going to find out if it was really production?

Kelli (31:26.623)
I don't know. Kenya's gonna have to come out and say it and then she'll never get hired again on Bravo. She'll be done on Bravo. Bethany Franco is gonna have a exclusive interview with Kenya at some point like she did with Nene.

Wendy (31:33.688)
Well.

Wendy (31:38.478)
I doubt it. seriously doubt it. On Bethany.

Kelli (31:43.139)
And then NeNe turned on her after that, didn't she? Yeah, NeNe did like a 180. Cause I'm gonna tell you what I think. I think NeNe did that interview and I think Bravo or Andy Cohen or somebody reached out to NeNe and was like, you know, they might be revamping Atlanta and like just dangled something in front of NeNe's face and she bit at it. And she did a complete 180 and look, she's still not back on Bravo.

Wendy (31:48.757)
Yeah, she did do a 180.

Wendy (32:06.125)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (32:10.606)
She's still not back on Bravo. And I will tell you, I think I did tell you this. I don't know if I mentioned it on the podcast, the thing with Portia that she was doing with NeNe, she was supposed to be doing some project with NeNe. And then she showed up there and she was like, I can't be associated with her because then I'm not gonna be able to get back on Bravo. And then when Andy asked her, a viewer asked her on Watch What Happens Live, who would you want back? She didn't say NeNe.

Kelli (32:15.927)
got something.

Kelli (32:22.999)
Yeah.

Kelli (32:38.967)
Yep. Give me a break. I'm out, I'm back out of Atlanta if Kim Zolciak comes back on.

Wendy (32:39.266)
She said Kim Zolciak. I'm like.

Kelli (32:48.715)
I can't handle her. At least we're not reading about them right now.

Wendy (32:54.252)
Yeah, I don't even know what's going on with them. I think they sold the house. Yeah, it has been quiet.

Kelli (32:56.811)
It's been quiet.

Kelli (33:01.729)
Is that all you have for Atlanta?

Wendy (33:03.252)
That is all I have for Atlanta. I did want to say I saw today, they were talking about, you know how Dolores did the recap with Tamara? And they were talking about, Tamara was talking about how Erica was so nasty towards Garcelle. The word is like,

Kelli (33:15.203)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (33:28.301)
Yes.

Wendy (33:30.784)
I wonder if Erica's gonna come back and do the podcast because she was doing the podcast with Teddy. I mean, I Teddy's not doing the podcast right now, but I wonder if she's kind of cutting her. I don't know. You know, I don't know.

Kelli (33:36.419)
tiny.

Kelli (33:43.787)
That's why Tamara was saying that. Right.

Kelli (33:50.957)
Yeah, that's interesting.

Wendy (33:52.236)
I don't know. I'm not, you know what, I'm not a big fan of Tamara's. And honestly, the only reason I'm listening, cause I stopped listening. I stopped listening to her. And then after Teddy got sick, I started listening again. Cause I feel like this is Teddy's podcast, to be quite honest with you. It is Teddy's podcast. Like this is her thing. And now I'm doing it in support of Teddy, even though I can't stand Tamara. Teddy's not even on.

Kelli (33:56.981)
No, no, I mean...

I know.

Kelli (34:08.353)
Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

And Teddy's not even on. I really can't stand Tamera either, especially when she talks about herself because she just, she's just like an egomaniac. She's just a narcissist and an egomaniac and she thinks she's like the greatest thing. But I do love Dolores on there. I think Dolores is a hypocrite and contradicts herself a lot.

when she talks about certain housewives and then if you put it in, you know, comparison to her show, she always says my show, my show, which it is, she contradicts herself a lot as to the type of friend she is to certain people on her cast and how she expects other housewives to be. But whatever, I do enjoy Dolores on there, because I like Dolores. Yeah.

Wendy (34:42.093)
Yes.

Wendy (34:50.658)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (35:04.63)
I do too, and I agree with you. She is definitely a hypocrite when it comes to certain things. But I'll be honest with you, I think pretty much almost all of them are hypocrites. Right? mean, if... No, we do. We do it to ourselves.

Kelli (35:08.031)
Yeah, for sure.

Kelli (35:13.879)
They all are. I probably contradict myself on here, just nobody gives a shit, because nobody knows who I am.

Kelli (35:24.075)
We do, we definitely do. I tried to catch it and like with the Kenya thing, because I really thought production knew. I thought there were pictures up everywhere and production was like, yeah, this is great. Well, maybe production did know.

Wendy (35:37.486)
Yeah, I'm thinking, maybe it's not that we're hypocrites. It's that we just change our mind. Listen, we are women. We are allowed to change our mind. We're allowed to change our mind. We get new information. New information is provided. We see it from a different angle. This is just entertainment. We don't have to ride and die by our decisions here. mean, exactly. It's really not that important.

Kelli (35:44.715)
I definitely changed my mind. Yes.

Kelli (35:52.172)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (35:56.905)
No. Nobody's life is on the line.

Thank God.

Right, right. The last summer, I feel like I missed a summer house episode. Was the last episode the one where Craig and Kyle were in the boat and I missed one and it's not in my DVR. I know.

Wendy (36:14.855)
Nope, you missed one.

you're gonna have to go on Peacock. It's where Carl, you missed a good one too. Carl launches the soft bar.

Kelli (36:24.311)
Yeah, I had a feeling.

Kelli (36:30.039)
wait, no no no, and the kickball game?

Wendy (36:33.678)
kickball.

Kelli (36:35.565)
They played a kickball game, right? With West, besties and chesties. Okay, I did see that. Okay, yeah, so Jesse got caught.

Wendy (36:38.334)
Yes, yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Wendy (36:47.256)
Jesse is a dog. He's such a dog.

Kelli (36:47.579)
so bad. He's a dog. He's such

Wendy (36:52.646)
speaking of that, just read Lindsay spilled the tea on Bailey because Bailey was on that episode. Remember, I initially said that Bailey was talking about stuff. That's not what happened. What happened was because Lindsay's out at this without outing it. She actually said she's the one who got her kicked off the show, but.

Kelli (37:00.919)
Yes, yes.

Kelli (37:08.621)
What happened?

Wendy (37:20.382)
Bailey came on the show as a single female. And in fact, she wasn't single, she had a boyfriend.

Kelli (37:27.651)
She kept talking about the guy she was using in the suitcases, right? Is that the guy? Okay.

Wendy (37:31.17)
Yes, I guess so. Yeah, I guess so. So Lindsay got wind that she wasn't really single and I guess let production know and so...

I don't know the exact conversation, but it wasn't about her talking shit. It was about that she was...

Kelli (37:50.083)
It's interesting though, like why that would matter.

Wendy (37:53.9)
I don't know. don't know. Lindsay also said, this was in an interview, that she thought that she was a little bit too young for the show. A little bit too immature.

Kelli (37:55.117)
Right? Like

Kelli (38:05.185)
Fuck you, Lindsay. We think you're too old for the show.

for crying out loud! Are you 40 yet? Because if not, you're close and nobody wants to see you party in the Hamptons after 40. Trust me.

Wendy (38:11.66)
You

Wendy (38:20.302)
No, really, I'm serious. Like they need to recast Summerhouse.

Kelli (38:26.625)
Yeah, like Bailey, I mean, I don't, we don't know anything about her, so she could have been a dream wreck, but this is what we need, a younger generation.

Wendy (38:29.55)
Right

Wendy (38:34.946)
We need a younger summer house. I don't even know who they can keep because I think they're all too old.

Kelli (38:39.767)
I think they're all too old. I think they need to get rid of all of them. I really, really do. Maybe keep West and Jessie, but we don't even really like them anymore. So no, keep Lexi, build it around Lexi. Yep, her and her model friends. She is a gorgeous girl, that Lexi. Tess was watching it with me too. I'm like, isn't she gorgeous? She's like, Build it around her and her friends.

Wendy (38:43.777)
Yeah.

Wendy (38:49.23)
No, we don't like them.

I would love that.

Wendy (38:58.043)
Yes!

Wendy (39:03.914)
She is. She really is. Yes, I think that's a good idea. But I will say this, although Bailey is the one that spread the tea about the toe sucking. So she was good for that. She got that story around. So yeah, I definitely think it needs to be recast. Also, Lindsay was at Aaron's baby's bris.

Kelli (39:16.929)
Yes, she is.

She sure was. Yep. Yep.

Wendy (39:34.016)
So I think they are closer than, you know, think they're more than just casual friends. I don't think you just invite, you know, a rando to your baby's breasts, right?

Kelli (39:39.201)
Right.

Kelli (39:44.161)
Right. I'm curious to see what happens with New York. Cause they're not filming or anything, right? It's amazing how Salt Lake picks up cameras like right after they stop, right? Like the reunion ends and then cause they're filming already again. Yeah.

Wendy (39:49.301)
No, they're not. And I

Wendy (39:59.958)
Are they? that's right. Yeah, because we saw that What's-Her-Name wasn't on the one trip, yeah, right. Yeah, I guess it depends on how set they are with the cast, though. You know? Yeah, because Beverly Hills normally does it, too. They normally pick up right afterwards. I guess if, you know, the cast is set, then the cast is set.

Kelli (40:03.884)
Yeah, Lisa.

Kelli (40:09.121)
Yeah, and what's going on in their lives. Yeah.

Kelli (40:18.305)
which that'll be interesting too that you say that because now with Garcelle announcing she's leaving and I swear I heard Erica either got fired or was leaving. I don't think she would leave on her own though. Like you said, she needs the paycheck.

Wendy (40:30.921)
I don't think she would live on her own.

Kelli (40:33.911)
So, but yeah.

Wendy (40:34.966)
A lot of people are really hating on Erica right now too.

Kelli (40:38.209)
Yeah, I don't think she did herself any favors that in that reunion against with Garcelle

Wendy (40:43.71)
No, she didn't. And then shading the singer and then the designer. I mean, listen, I think that, I think some of them were innocent mistakes to be quite honest with you. But you put them all together with, you know, the mean girl, like what she did to Garcelle. I don't know.

Kelli (40:47.456)
yeah.

Kelli (40:57.207)
Yeah.

Kelli (41:08.643)
think I saw something about a designer, like her leaving a threatening voicemail.

Wendy (41:14.43)
no, so that's the other situation that's going on. So yeah, there's a lawsuit because she had these designers, these two guys, they were designers and they designed all of her costumes for her Pretty Mess tour. And they were all done when she was with Tom and that was all done on her American Express. And it was like hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Kelli (41:16.203)
Okay, that's something different. Okay.

A lawsuit. Yeah.

Kelli (41:31.875)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (41:39.874)
right.

Wendy (41:44.512)
And then in the midst of everything, she said that the charges were made fraudulently. So then the FBI got involved.

Kelli (41:52.269)
That's right.

Wendy (41:56.942)
and these designers kind of lost everything. Because, yeah, I mean, they had to hire lawyers, they had to defend themselves, and no. So now they are suing her, and I think that they, I don't know how far it got. I don't know if they won or not, but I don't know if it even got to court yet, but it seems to me like,

Kelli (42:01.369)
wow.

They had to hire lawyers.

Yeah, which is not cheap.

Wendy (42:25.452)
What I've seen, they have a very good case. And I think what she did was shitty, the designers. I think what she did was shitty. You know, you're going through your own shit. You're gonna say it's fraud. And it was Tom Girardi that got the FBI involved too because of who he was in...

Kelli (42:28.705)
the designers.

Kelli (42:38.563)
on

Kelli (42:45.027)
Well, look how that backfired on him, right?

Wendy (42:46.966)
Yeah, yeah. And on her, if this is what happened.

Yeah, so she's not looking really great in the public eye right now.

Kelli (42:59.115)
No, so maybe she is gone. Maybe she's not coming back for whatever reason.

Wendy (43:04.396)
Yeah, well, I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Kelli (43:06.509)
So we got Beverly Hills, we don't know what's going on. New York, don't know what's going on. Miami, we don't know what's going on. Weren't they filming Miami?

Wendy (43:13.506)
We don't, and but, have, yes, they were, yes, they were filming Miami. Did they put it on hold or we just haven't heard about it?

Kelli (43:19.331)
and then they put it on hold. I think so. I thought I heard they put it on hold.

Wendy (43:26.402)
Because remember Nicole's ex-wife or girlfriend?

Kelli (43:31.565)
So Anthony, her partner's ex, was gonna be on it. And Nicole announced she was leaving.

Wendy (43:37.984)
Right, right. I don't blame her. She didn't need this.

Kelli (43:42.115)
They have their own airplane. She does not need the grief. She does not need the headache. And she was a fan fave. So if anybody thinks that they're gonna go on and start bad mouthing her, because know, Marisol didn't like her because she's fucking loaded. And Marisol's all about the appearance and the money and you know.

Wendy (43:44.94)
Yeah. No, she does not need the grief.

Kelli (44:05.377)
Marisol was always trying to come for her. So Marisol probably had something to do. Well, I mean, she's only a friend of I don't know how much pulse she has but Marisol did? I thought she was already married.

Wendy (44:12.632)
She got married too. Marisol got married. Yeah, she did. No, they were, nope, they were not married. Now they're married. That guy, yeah, no, they weren't married. Now they're married.

Kelli (44:23.073)
Yeah, so I mean, what are they gonna do? Sit around and talk shit about Nicole? Nobody's gonna buy it. She was a fan fave.

Wendy (44:29.464)
This is very true. So Potomac isn't filming. We don't know what's going on with Potomac.

Kelli (44:33.769)
No, they're gonna wait for Karen. You don't think?

Wendy (44:36.116)
No, they're not. No, are. No, absolutely not. They are not waiting for Karen. No.

Kelli (44:40.611)
Do you think she's not coming back?

Wendy (44:44.206)
It's going to be a while because she's got five years after her sentence is done. So she's got five years of...

parole or probation? Probation.

Kelli (44:56.899)
probation. So you could film during that.

Wendy (45:00.748)
I don't know, can she? And she can't leave the state. Can't leave the state, neuroimprobation.

Kelli (45:01.677)
She just can't screw up.

Kelli (45:06.763)
Right, so she couldn't go on any trips or anything.

Wendy (45:09.494)
I don't know. I would think a lawyer would advise her not to do that.

Kelli (45:14.453)
Of course they would advise her, but would she listen? I'm sure her lawyer advised her to take the plea if that were really on the table and she didn't do that.

Wendy (45:17.122)
That's a very good point.

Wendy (45:24.878)
I would certainly hope so. I don't know what's going on. I don't I don't know So, okay. So what's coming? Love Hotel isn't coming until the end of April April I think 27th Yes, you don't seem like you're looking forward to the valley

Kelli (45:35.699)
Yeah, but the valley starts like next week.

Kelli (45:42.179)
I mean, I don't love the Valley, I'll be honest with you. But I didn't love Vanderpump Rules either, with all these people on it. You know what I mean? Like I could give or take the cast. But I like, you know, I like the one couple with all the kids, she just had another baby, Mia, Nia, Nia. I like them. I don't really like Brittany. I can't stand her stomach jacks.

Wendy (45:46.176)
I can tell that.

Wendy (45:50.08)
Okay, that's me.

Wendy (46:01.481)
Nia Nia.

Kelli (46:08.865)
I think Brittany plays victim, listen, not that I'm happy that she's no longer with Jax. I think she can do much better, but I think Brittany knew exactly who Jax was and sought him out when she got together with him. She said, yeah.

Wendy (46:29.666)
When she met him in Vegas. Yeah, mean, listen, he'd already been on the show for several years. It's not like,

Kelli (46:37.271)
Wendy (46:41.75)
I don't know. Listen, she put up with him for all this time doing all these drugs and I do believe that she loved him. I do believe that she loved him.

Kelli (46:45.068)
She did.

Kelli (46:49.635)
sure she did. I'm sure she did. I'm just not a huge fan, but I'll watch it. I'm happy for Kristen, quite honestly.

Wendy (46:56.087)
Okay, good.

and she's the one I like the least.

Kelli (47:01.071)
She's the one I like the least too, but I am happy for her. I'm hoping that Lala and Sheena are on it because them I would like to watch. Yeah, like I got bored with Vanderpump rules. I liked it in the beginning, but then it was like,

Wendy (47:09.218)
They are on it. They are on it.

Wendy (47:13.888)
Yeah, well, because, yeah. They were talking about today, who was talking about it? I don't know, but when Bravo celebrities split, because they were talking about Paige and Craig and Tom and Ariana, like how Ariana's career was like doing so well after the Tom and Ariana thing. And now Paige's career is like,

you know, exploding. She is doing the red carpets. She was on the Tonight Show. The book is coming out. She had the 60 cities sold out tour. Like she really is like everything she's ever wanted. I think she's got like a Vogue campaign or something else coming up.

Kelli (48:00.621)
Yeah, I think it's a little bit different though. I think people felt bad for Ariana. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (48:05.572)
they definitely did. No, it's definitely, it's not the same situation. It's just that for some reason, like...

the men's, like Craig, I don't think Craig is like anything. I mean, saw Austin was on Bros or Bros and Chos and like they're not doing their podcast again yet, like they were thinking about it. But like, I don't think Craig is doing anything different than before, right? And Tom, obviously.

Kelli (48:35.619)
Right. I don't know if he necessarily wants to though. You know what I mean? Like I think a lot of, I think a lot of, and I'm going to sound like Shep and Austin, but I think a lot of thoughts and goals and you know, things that Craig we're going to pursue were all based on things Paige told him he should or, you know, had an opinion about.

Wendy (48:40.5)
No, maybe not. Maybe not. Yeah.

Kelli (49:07.553)
And now he's like, all right, I'm good. You know what I mean? He's got a hot girlfriend and you know, he's all set. He's got a beautiful house in the town he wants to live in. you know, he's on a show. He's good. Yeah. Sandoval, I mean, he was probably getting death threats that guy. I shouldn't laugh because he probably really was.

Wendy (49:07.598)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm here in South Carolina. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (49:18.85)
Yeah, he does. Yep.

Wendy (49:25.644)
He's fine.

Wendy (49:31.539)
yeah. No, he probably was. He probably was, but you-

Kelli (49:36.115)
I said it from the beginning. Well, first, of course, I thought it was fake, but I mean, and I'm not sure. Like, listen, I like Ariana, but people get cheated on all the time. It was amazing how the, how America responded to her and good for her, for all of her success. But it was like, yeah, crazy.

Wendy (49:39.694)
Okay.

Wendy (49:46.529)
I know, it's true.

Wendy (49:53.43)
Right. I thought so too. I thought it was crazy.

Wendy (49:59.33)
Yeah, because when Lala called her out on it, like then all of a sudden she became the villain. It's like, Like, now Lala's the villain. What?

Kelli (50:04.133)
Yes! Like, but she was right! She was so right!

Yeah, yeah. I'm hoping that Lala and Sheena are on the valley, because that'll make me more interested. I'll tell you what...

Wendy (50:17.058)
They both have said that they filmed quite a bit. They don't know what's gonna be shown, but they both said they did. Well, Lala not as much because she was pregnant. She was pretty pregnant. But Sheena said that she did film quite a bit.

Kelli (50:24.619)
Okay.

Kelli (50:28.419)
Good. You know what I'm not looking forward to seeing is Michelle and Jesse, because it looks like that's a pretty volatile divorce they're going through. And I just don't like to see that. It makes me sad, especially when they have a little girl.

Wendy (50:37.632)
Yes.

Wendy (50:42.358)
Yeah. I think though today as we stand, I think they're in a good place though.

Kelli (50:44.419)
but we'll stay.

Kelli (50:48.173)
Good, that's good. That's good. Yeah, but Love Hotel I'm excited for.

Wendy (50:50.765)
I think.

I'm excited about that too. I like Luanne. I would like to see, like I watch her on TikTok. She is so kooky, know, before her shows, dancing and I don't think she's gonna find anybody though.

Kelli (51:03.223)
Yeah.

Kelli (51:07.203)
I'm, nah, I think this is all for TV, which is fine, but I hope they make it a thing where like after this one, they get four new single housewives. Old, you know, old housewives, like they don't have to be current housewives. Like let's, you know, let's go get, you know, Katie from Potomac, season one. Actually, you know what I just saw? think.

Wendy (51:10.57)
Yeah, it's all for fun.

Wendy (51:19.374)
I would love that. I would love that.

Wendy (51:25.197)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Wendy (51:32.751)
was she season one? Katie was season one.

Kelli (51:37.667)
Katie was season one, but I think she's in recovery.

Wendy (51:40.68)
that would be good. That would be good.

Kelli (51:42.123)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but I'm saying like, you know, like, what's her face? What was her name? Carlisle? What the hell was her name on Beverly Hills? The one who went for Kyle? Cause I think she got divorced too.

Wendy (51:55.774)
yeah, yeah. I know who you're talking about.

Kelli (51:57.281)
Yeah, like, let's make this kooky, Bravo.

Wendy (52:01.995)
And how about like maybe one of the Dallas, which Dallas one? Which one was single? Were any of them single?

Kelli (52:04.957)
yeah, they were all married.

Leanne, get Leanne Locken on Love Hotel.

Wendy (52:15.761)
my god, that would be great TV.

Kelli (52:20.541)
I wanna know now that Dallas is off the air, was Carrie Duber's husband really at that bar giving oral sex to men?

Wendy (52:22.158)
you

Wendy (52:30.414)
But wait, wait, no wait, Le- Leanne has a- Wait, doesn't she have a boyfriend?

Kelli (52:35.637)
No, Deandra has the husband. wait, did Leanne have a boyfriend?

Wendy (52:38.466)
No, but I think Leigh, yes, yes. I think she has a boyfriend, a long time boyfriend. Yeah, I don't think that, he was a cop. Yes, yeah, no, Leigh Ann, no. I don't think any of them are single. I would like Dallas back. I don't know why they got rid of Dallas. I enjoy Dallas.

Kelli (52:43.85)
I think you're right. I forgot about that. Yes, he was a cop. I forgot about that.

Kelli (52:56.436)
Me too!

I did too, I even like that tall blonde that loved pink that wanted to make the pink dog food. She was ridiculous, but just ridiculous enough.

Wendy (53:03.918)
Cameron I loved Cameron I'll be honest with you. I still watch Tiffany Moon. I love Tiffany Moon. We only got one season of Tiffany I love Tiffany

Kelli (53:12.821)
I love Tiffany Moon, yeah.

Yeah.

Kelli (53:19.691)
I'd like Dallas back. It was weird how they took it off, but we won't even go there, because Lord only knows. Yeah.

Wendy (53:22.122)
I would too.

Wendy (53:28.47)
Yeah, exactly. All right. Until next time. Thank you for watching. We did. Well, it's good to take a turn every now and then.

Kelli (53:33.153)
Yeah, we took a turn. We took a turn.

Yeah, yeah, I agree. All right, good night.

Wendy (53:40.856)
Good night.