Dinner Parties and Disasters: Tamra's Big Stir

We Wine Whenever (00:00.695)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.278)
Kelly. So tonight we're talking about Real Housewives of OC but before we start that I just wanted to bring up two things. One thing I just saw, Ryan, Jen's Ryan is suing Tamara.

We Wine Whenever (00:18.254)
I saw that. I

Kelli (00:19.846)
because you heard her on Watch What Happens Live, right? She said you stole money and he didn't and you and I both discussed this. He didn't. And he has immunity. So whatever proof he has that he did not know that that money was coming from that baseball player must be good enough proof for him to get immunity.

We Wine Whenever (00:22.346)
I did. I know. Mm -hmm.

We Wine Whenever (00:30.819)
No.

We Wine Whenever (00:41.29)
Well, she made a video today on Instagram walking down the street. Did you see it?

Kelli (00:45.21)
I couldn't, for some reason I couldn't hear the video, but she also posted an apology and I'm gonna read it. Because this is hysterical.

As I mentioned on my IG story yesterday, I would like to apologize for and correct the record on a misstatement I made on Watch What Happens Live on Thursday about Ryan. I don't know to pronounce his last name. I have no reason to believe that Ryan has stolen any money. I misspoke in tying Ryan to the actions of others. I meant to say my company makes more money than what was stolen from the Dodger player. Unfortunately, her spelling is

horrendous, by the way. Unfortunately, I misspoke on live television while Ryan and I have had ongoing issues. I do apologize to him for the mistake and wish to make clear that my statement was made in error. I sincerely apologize, Tamra Judge. And he basically, I guess he posted that and basically said, this is because I filed a lawsuit.

We Wine Whenever (01:46.16)
so he posted that. She posted it first, I guess, because I saw her. She said that in the video. So she was walking down the street with Eddie and she said two things to clarify. One was that she misspoke about, you know, him stealing the money because everyone's innocent until proven guilty. And the other, like Andy pointed out, because Andy did make that statement. They must have, the producers must have said.

Kelli (01:48.55)
So yeah, I believe so.

Kelli (02:13.32)
You don't want to get tied into that.

We Wine Whenever (02:15.155)
Right, producers must have said something in his ear. And what was the other thing? She said something else she misspoke about. Something about Eddie, I don't remember what. I don't remember. It probably will hit me when we start recapping it. Because I did recap watch what happens live too. So I have that whole thing in its entirety we can discuss. Okay.

Kelli (02:34.47)
Okay, good, good. And the second thing I just wanted to mention real quick, and I think that this is hysterical. Did you see the video of Teresa cooking?

We Wine Whenever (02:43.173)
I did not see the video, but I've heard all about the video. What was she cooking?

Kelli (02:47.4)
I she was making, you know, she was making her, her pot of sauce and you know, she was putting the pork chops in there and the sausage like you do, but I just thought it was hysterical. Have we ever seen her do a cooking video?

We Wine Whenever (02:52.821)
Pasta? Yeah, okay.

We Wine Whenever (03:05.555)
No, but Melissa and Joe were doing cooking videos.

Kelli (03:09.008)
And Caroline's cookbook just came out and she was on the Good Morning America, I believe.

We Wine Whenever (03:14.826)
Good for her. I listened to her on Dear Albie. It was his first podcast since he had the baby. So did you get a chance to listen to it?

Kelli (03:21.56)
Mm hmm. I didn't. I'm going to go to the gym tomorrow and I'm going to listen to it while I'm at the gym. And Caroline's on it.

We Wine Whenever (03:26.684)
Yeah, it's a good one. Caroline's on it. Yeah, it's a good one. You'll enjoy it.

Kelli (03:31.74)
Have you listened yet when the cousin's on? Okay, she's really, really funny. And I told you when they were courting Melissa to join the show, were, before that they were courting her and she almost did it, but then didn't because of her husband's aspirations in the school district, which is understandable. Yeah. Yeah. Those were the two things I had to bring up. I'm so happy he's suing her though. And he's using the same attorney as Jim Belina.

We Wine Whenever (03:35.355)
No.

We Wine Whenever (03:48.433)
Okay, yeah, yeah, that's right. That makes sense. That makes sense.

We Wine Whenever (03:55.292)
I am too.

I know, I know, I saw that, I love that.

Kelli (04:00.432)
I mean, this, this is How's Wives Gold.

We Wine Whenever (04:04.125)
Yes it is, yes it is, and maybe this is what she needs to keep her mouth shut. Right?

Kelli (04:07.912)
100%, 100%. Stop drinking, Tamara. You need to stop drinking.

We Wine Whenever (04:11.995)
Exactly. Exactly. The other thing I wanted to clear up is last week, it's not really clear up. We had talked about Emily putting testosterone pellets in her butt and I looked it up and it's actually, it's hormone replacement therapy for menopause. So it's not just testosterone, it's other hormones to replace whatever it is you're losing during menopause.

Kelli (04:34.598)
and it doesn't aid in weight loss.

We Wine Whenever (04:37.724)
I don't know if it aids in weight loss. I think it really just balances your hormones better so that you're, know, knowing not so much of the night sweats or the hot flashes or the up and down moods. I don't know. I've never done it, but it's actually something I'm thinking about looking into because I have heard good things about it.

Kelli (04:43.547)
Okay. Okay.

Kelli (04:57.968)
Me too, me too.

We Wine Whenever (05:00.2)
I also wanted to mention to you, I was reading one of our listeners, they commented about the breast reduction. I don't know if you saw that one. So she said at 48 during menopause, her breasts grew also. So I guess menopause is something that could cause them, and I thought of you when I saw that, was like, no, I know. I know.

Kelli (05:06.513)
I didn't.

Kelli (05:19.864)
my god. I will flip out if they get any bigger. I'm gonna have to go get my reduction and lift soon because I'm very perimenopausal. And I will lose my shit if they get any bigger.

We Wine Whenever (05:30.764)
you

We Wine Whenever (05:34.769)
I know, I was like, no. But thank you for the information to our listeners. Thank you for the information. Yes.

Kelli (05:41.64)
Absolutely, that was that's very helpful. Thank you. Well, and the last thing is what you sent me about poor Kim Richards and Kyle. That's very sad. I wish her well. I hope she gets, you know, if she has relapsed because we don't know if that's really what happened. I hope she gets the help she needs. just in general hope she gets the help she needs. I honestly think that the whole family needs to get off the shelf.

We Wine Whenever (05:50.794)
yes.

We Wine Whenever (06:01.287)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (06:09.232)
Well, they certainly don't need the money. So, yeah.

Kelli (06:11.012)
Mm -hmm. That's what I mean. So like focus on your family. Not that I think Cathy's focusing on anything other than herself, but maybe

We Wine Whenever (06:18.854)
Well, the interest, I did also see on social media that us viewers, we missed the clues that something was going on with Kim Richards because I guess her birthday was, think September 19th and her two sisters did not wish her happy birthday publicly. And we should have picked up on that is what they're telling us. I was like, okay, yeah, cause we have.

Kelli (06:21.096)
Because it does always seem like it's Kyle taking care of Kim. But I could be wrong.

Kelli (06:39.174)
Kelli (06:43.016)
tell me you're self -involved without telling me you're telling me you're self -involved. Yeah, I my own September birthday, And it was 50, so I was focusing on myself.

We Wine Whenever (06:48.557)
I was like, okay. Yes, exactly. Exactly.

And she turned 60. She turned, yep, she turned 60 on her birthday in September 1960. Yeah. She does. No, she absolutely does. I do too. I do too. So this one is episode 18, excuse me, season 18, episode 12. Yeah. No, no, no, no. Episode 12. I know. The Elephant in the Room is the name of this one. And it starts out the day after the party.

Kelli (07:03.08)
Wow. Well, she does look great for 60, but I wish her well.

Kelli (07:14.792)
I'm like, there's an 18 already? Go close enough, 12.

We Wine Whenever (07:25.942)
Emily, Gina and Tamara are talking about what happened and Tamara apologizes for jumping on the bandwagon. I think it's a little bit too late. And I honestly, I don't even know why Gina and Emily allow her to apologize and just kind of move on with it. Really, I don't.

Kelli (07:48.464)
Listen I love Emily I think Emily keeps Tamra close to her for a reason. I think because if you're not close to Tamra she's going to do to you what she's doing to Jen. What she's doing to Shannon what she's really done to Heather. You have to keep Tamra close. Did you see I because I didn't see this last week but in the flashback when the three of them are talking they showed Emily say to Alexis shut up Alexis you're just a friend of.

We Wine Whenever (07:55.319)
That could be.

We Wine Whenever (08:07.043)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (08:17.909)
No, I miss that. I love that because that's what you always say in all of our posts.

Kelli (08:19.932)
She said something about being a friend of, I thought that was great.

Kelli (08:26.84)
I do. I call her a friend of and I won't say John Jansen's name. I just say Shannon's ex. I don't say Alexis's boyfriend. I say Shannon's ex. I think. I think. If not, I'm going to do it from now on.

We Wine Whenever (08:35.459)
Okay, that's good. I like it. I like it. All right. So then we see Terry and Heather are at the doctor's office because he needs to get clearance for surgery because he's snoring. Basically it's because he's snoring and Heather is not getting good sleep. So he has to have his nose fixed.

Kelli (08:54.514)
Terry wants a nose job and needs to blame it on snoring.

We Wine Whenever (08:56.578)
I mean, if he want, I don't know, if he wanted a nose job, why wouldn't he have had it years ago?

Kelli (09:01.584)
That's what I'm saying. Just say you want a nose job. His nose has gotten very big over the years. I don't know if it's the filler or whatever he's doing to his face, but his nose has definitely gotten bigger. Just say you want a nose job. Yeah, and he's not going to Paul Nassif, which is shocking.

We Wine Whenever (09:12.939)
Well, he's getting a nose job.

We Wine Whenever (09:17.237)
I know, and you know he's gonna be mad. I don't blame him. I'd be mad too. So Heather's tired. She's talking to him about, he says to her, well, you were up late drinking last night and partying and laughing. And Heather feels like with Gina and Emily, always has like goes two steps forward and one step back. And this is where Terry says, you have a process you need to go through.

Kelli (09:19.194)
Yes, I don't either.

We Wine Whenever (09:45.869)
You hash it out one, two, three times at nauseam. I was like, Heather says, that's not true. And Terry says, I don't want to talk about it anymore. And then Heather gets up and they walk out because they were done. He was done getting the blood drawn. And Heather says, which she, I mean, she's on mic, but she wasn't on camera says, you know, don't admonish me on camera. Terry says, then don't talk over me. And I'll tell you.

Kelli (10:13.938)
Look at Terry getting the balls.

We Wine Whenever (10:15.612)
Yep, and I'll tell you what, mean on social media people were really giving her hard time about producing herself. But I don't know, I don't think, listen, I don't think what she did was horrible. I agree, like I don't, mean, I would have done the same thing. I would have done the same thing, and so what?

Kelli (10:33.434)
Or, you know, my husband said things to me in front of people and we've gotten in the car and I'm like, why would you, why would you do that? You know? And I'm sure he's done the same thing to me, you know? Yeah. It's unfortunate that she was on camera and the whole world got to see it, but no.

We Wine Whenever (10:40.059)
Right. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Right. Right. Yeah. I don't think it was a problem. Right. I don't think it was a horrible thing. And then he gets the medical clearance for, you know, his anesthesia. Then we see Jen and Ryan, they go shopping together. This is kind of funny. I know Jen says Ryan has his own style and he needs to bring everything to the tailor. Even his underwear. I mean, I don't...

Kelli (10:58.912)
my god.

Kelli (11:05.018)
even his underwear. That's crazy.

We Wine Whenever (11:09.139)
I think she was joking. Don't you think she was joking? How do you, I mean, you tailor underwear. You just buy a size smaller, right? Exactly. Exactly. That is crazy. I think she was just.

Kelli (11:10.47)
I hope she was joking.

get a smaller size if you want the more snug I mean that's crazy that's crazy I just bought a dress for my nephew's wedding next week to get hemmed a hem it's costing me 40 bucks it's called it's costing me $40 to get the dress hemmed so why would you probably the way I shop on Nordstrom Rack sales why would you get tish underwear Taylor's just throwing money out the window

We Wine Whenever (11:26.974)
We Wine Whenever (11:32.04)
Probably more than the dress.

We Wine Whenever (11:42.334)
Well, she said t -shirts too. I mean, yeah, I think she was just being sarcastic. And I like her, so it's fine. I don't even care. I don't even care. And then the saleswoman asked them if they know Tamara and Eddie.

Kelli (11:46.534)
Yeah, I mean just buy smaller Ryan.

We Wine Whenever (12:00.016)
And they're like, yeah. And she said, well, Eddie has that exact same jacket that you're wearing. How funny.

Kelli (12:06.33)
It was it I know because honestly when she first said it I was like god here we go now they set up a scene with the salesperson and they're gonna have her say something and then it didn't go anywhere and I was like shit maybe the salesperson just really said it out of the blue right yeah that was crazy

We Wine Whenever (12:11.515)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (12:17.724)
haha

We Wine Whenever (12:21.821)
I think it did. Yeah, I think it just happened. And then, so Tamar and Jen, they're talking about how they're moving forward in a positive place and they know that there's tension between their husbands. So Tamar on her side is trying to talk to Eddie about making amends with Ryan and Jen on her side is trying to talk to Ryan about making amends with Eddie.

Kelli (12:42.749)
Mm -hmm.

Kelli (12:47.344)
What exactly, I know we saw it now, because I know Ryan did go on a podcast. What did he say about Eddie?

We Wine Whenever (12:53.627)
So I guess.

I guess, I mean, he kind of alludes to saying that he was unemployed and soft and,

Basically, right, right, exactly. Yeah, I know and it's, exactly, exactly, exactly. So even, when Tamara and Eddie are having their conversation, they're cleaning up the kitchen and Tamara's complaining about how Eddie leaves the kitchen dirty, except for the only thing he cleans is his motorcycle and his truck. I mean, does she think he's different than

Kelli (13:06.76)
kind of lets Tam roll the roost. Okay. You know, that's his opinion. That's his opinion.

You

We Wine Whenever (13:36.045)
Any other man? what? I mean, there's very few men or they're cleaning the kitchen. Seriously.

Kelli (13:39.237)
Right. Right. Right. And I'm sure she's got a cleaning person, so...

We Wine Whenever (13:44.205)
Yeah, exactly, exactly. So Shannon's on FaceTime with her daughter Adeline, and she's asking about school and asking about the men. And she's telling her that she's just had three good days because she went on tour with Vicky. And then she starts telling her that she's a little bit stressed out about what's going on with John and you know.

that he admitted that he's using the video footage as blackmail, which is insane. It's absolutely insane.

Kelli (14:17.018)
It is insane how these people admit that stuff. if it were, if it were anybody else, like you or I, like that would be an admission of, you know, fraud basically.

We Wine Whenever (14:26.126)
Right. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And then later on in the day, it comes out in People Magazine that, you know, he's suing Shannon and when Tamara sees it, she calls Shannon and then Shannon accidentally butt dials her.

Kelli (14:47.13)
and Tamra fucking leaves it on. Does it not even leaves it on? She plays back the voicemail, right? Or did she just leave it on?

We Wine Whenever (14:54.648)
It wasn't a voicemail. She leaves it on. She leaves it on. mean, while filming.

Kelli (14:58.618)
while filming. That's terrible.

We Wine Whenever (15:03.191)
That just shows you who she is. It shows you in a hundred, yes, it shows you who she is. And then she calls Heather and tells Heather about it.

Kelli (15:05.256)
100%. Absolutely.

And... but before that, she says under her breath, Shannon, why didn't you just agree to pay him? She did! Tamara said that under her breath, but of course you could hear it. She did offer to pay him!

We Wine Whenever (15:21.593)
how she did.

We Wine Whenever (15:28.153)
She did. She did. And we find out that's why Alexis was so upset the night before. And one of the things that Shannon is saying is that Alexis set this up. She had her PR person, you know, put this out there, just like Shannon was saying. The first time that she was sued by Jim Bolino, the way Tamar and her found out about it is that it was in People Magazine. So if that's her MO, that's her MO. I don't think she's wrong with it.

Kelli (15:51.92)
Right, right.

That's absolutely not. She's absolutely right.

We Wine Whenever (15:59.053)
which again is wonderful why Ryan is now suing Tamara. Yes. It is, it is, it really is.

Kelli (16:03.35)
So good. It's so good.

Kelli (16:09.094)
Yeah. And Heather was right. She said John filing the lawsuit is counterintuitive to him not wanting to be in the spotlight. And she is absolutely correct.

We Wine Whenever (16:18.86)
Yeah, definitely. And then we see Katie talking to her husband about the dinner party and that, you know, she's inviting all the ladies and their husbands, but Gina's busy with her kids and she didn't invite Shannon, which is fine.

Kelli (16:32.744)
I'm wondering if if at this point Travis won't film because of what's going on with them because I mean Gina clearly has a very good co -parenting situation with her ex who is I mean we'll get there because he is so fucking good looking her ex -husband it's ridiculous I mean Travis is cute don't get me wrong he's a handsome guy but Matt is hot

We Wine Whenever (16:51.391)
He is. He is. He really is.

We Wine Whenever (16:58.731)
Yeah, he is. He is!

Kelli (17:00.274)
But I'm wondering if Travis at this point, because she asked him to move out and he was feeling a certain way about it, was like, I'm not filming. This is too uncomfortable.

We Wine Whenever (17:09.363)
It could be, or, I mean he has filmed with her this season.

Kelli (17:13.692)
Just those two scenes, right, where they're at the table and he's almost crying and then when he was physically moving out.

We Wine Whenever (17:18.7)
Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, it could be that he doesn't want to do couples things, you know, it's very possible. Yeah, it's very, very possible.

Kelli (17:24.388)
Right. Not right now. Not right now. Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (17:31.998)
And then Emily and Shane are talking about the dinner party as well. And they're talking about like, what should we bring? know, what gifts should we bring? And again, I like their little banter. Yeah. It is funny.

Kelli (17:34.93)
You

Kelli (17:41.472)
her son says bring her some pot. that's so funny. all these housewives must smoke weed or a good portion of them.

We Wine Whenever (17:51.988)
Well, I think, I mean, if not smoking weed, think that there's definitely edibles involved, right?

Kelli (17:56.444)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because they did the whole micro dosing thing at one point.

We Wine Whenever (18:00.254)
Yeah. I mean, think Heather was the one who introduced it to them. At least on camera, she introduced it. I don't know if she's actually the one who introduced it to them.

Kelli (18:05.415)
Yes.

Kelli (18:09.853)
Bye.

We Wine Whenever (18:11.509)
So then we see Terry get out of surgery. He had his nose job. It took him two hours. Yeah, looks great. So then the next scene is we see Gina at her house making her meatballs and her ex Matt comes over with his fiance. She's also beautiful.

Kelli (18:29.24)
she is and where do i have it she to me i always thought she looked like kelly dodd but in this scene with her long hair i'm like she looks like a cross between kelly dodd and angie k

You gotta look at a still picture of her.

We Wine Whenever (18:46.932)
I can kind of see it. Either way, the woman is beautiful. She really is. And you know, he is good looking. He is good looking. And you know, she sits down with them asking about like what's going on with the wedding and how she's excited for them. And they both agree that they're like, in her confessional, Gina says, I'm so lucky that, you know, they're going to have such a great stepmom, which

Kelli (18:51.706)
She's gorgeous. Yeah, but he is really good looking.

Kelli (19:14.482)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (19:15.088)
We know how important that is. Like that's so important.

Kelli (19:18.79)
Yeah, they're doing things the right way and honestly after what happened with them it really could have went bad. But they both see, I mean, I always think that it takes one person to be the bigger person and Gina seems to be the bigger person. Not that Matt's not equally as, you know, amicable in all of this. I'm just saying he was really the one who screwed up. Yeah. So Gina being the bigger person, but you do that for your kids.

We Wine Whenever (19:38.799)
Right, right. He was in the wrong. He was absolutely in the wrong.

We Wine Whenever (19:47.569)
Yeah, yes you do. you're a good mother, that's what you do. You put your kids first. That's what you do.

Kelli (19:51.388)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (19:57.521)
So she's talking, then we can see Katie, how she's talking to Matt about what their, no, her mother told her how, because she's from the South, her mother told her how to set up the table, make sure you have the table runner and the flowers and the dishes and the food. And she's like, well, she ordered the food, which is fine. You don't have to cook the food. Yeah, you don't have to cook the food. Yeah, I wouldn't be cooking the food.

Kelli (20:17.202)
Yeah, that's a lot of people to cook for. That's a lot of people to cook for. No, I like to cook and I wouldn't be cooking for all those people. I would make some things, but not the main thing.

We Wine Whenever (20:26.83)
No, because then you're not enjoying yourself. Yeah, no, then you're not enjoying yourself either. Like, you know, you're not enjoying yourself. Although I don't know that they were enjoying themselves anyway. So basically, you know, she brings up to Matt, her husband about Ryan went on the podcast and bashed Eddie and that they haven't like seen each other or talked to each other since that happened. So then Ryan comes in and he goes up to Eddie and

Kelli (20:32.196)
Absolutely. Mm -hmm. Yeah, started off good.

We Wine Whenever (20:55.031)
He said hi and he said, you want to give him a hug? And he's like, no, no, I'm good. He says,

Kelli (21:01.092)
I don't think Ryan should have expected a hug from Eddie. I'm on Eddie's side with the hug.

We Wine Whenever (21:03.695)
I don't either, I don't either. really, no.

Yeah. He's like, I have nothing to say to you. And so Shane and Eddie are the only two there that are not drinking. And, you know, I think about that when I saw that, like, Eddie doesn't really drink that much. Like, I don't think we've ever seen him. Right?

Kelli (21:24.068)
No, maybe when he first yeah, I don't I don't remember but and he could very well just not drink on camera Like I think margaret joseph said has always said that she just doesn't drink on camera when they're filming I mean, I think she'll have a cocktail here and there but not while filming but Yeah, and and good for eddie. He's very smart. He's very smart

We Wine Whenever (21:35.991)
she does drink? I thought she just didn't drink at all.

We Wine Whenever (21:47.536)
Yeah.

Mm -hmm. So then Ryan goes outside and he's talking to Matt and he's telling him about what happened between him. And he asks Ryan, Matt asks Ryan like what he does for a living. Like what do you do? What do you do for a living? And Ryan says, he said a whole lot of nothing. He said he's real estate development, he's been in the mortgage industry for years, he's got, what does he have? Seven projects he's working on. But it really was a lot of fluff.

Kelli (22:07.804)
real estate development.

Kelli (22:16.122)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (22:19.566)
Like, very vague. Right?

Kelli (22:22.064)
I agree. He was like... all over.

We Wine Whenever (22:25.525)
Yes, yes. And inside, Tamara's already spilling her drink at this point.

Kelli (22:32.902)
Yeah, Eddie tells Kate, is Katie's husband Matt also? Okay, yeah. So Eddie tells Matt to stop serving her. You should probably stop serving her. Which is something Eric would do, by the way.

We Wine Whenever (22:34.432)
He's... Yes, he's Matt, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (22:42.892)
Yes, he also, yeah, yeah, Bill would not do that. I mean, he should, but he would not. I would, exactly, exactly, exactly. And when she does spill her drink, you see Eddie like giving her the side eye, like, like, here we go, right?

Kelli (22:53.532)
Well, Edward doesn't drink. That's why he's very in tune to what's going on. He's like, all right, she's good. He's good.

Kelli (23:07.014)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (23:11.062)
And then they're sitting down at the table and Tamara says to Matt, wait, Tamara says to Katie, Tamara says to Katie, Matt's amazing. And he's never been married and he's never had any kids and that they've been together for seven and a half years. And then she says, by the way, I saw Katie's butthole. What is wrong with you?

Kelli (23:34.94)
Yeah, like it's not just, it's just, it's yeah, it's just, it's just stupid. And it was stupid when it happened and childish and immature. And now you're at a nice dinner party at her house.

We Wine Whenever (23:37.335)
This is not...

We Wine Whenever (23:46.017)
Right. It's not dinner table conversation. It's not.

Kelli (23:48.932)
No! No!

We Wine Whenever (23:52.621)
And then they bring up about what Emily was trying to say to Heather and Emily starts crying again.

Kelli (24:00.102)
Yeah, they got to stop bringing up the dress. It's like the paparazzi thing now. We're good. We're all set. But did you see the clip going around of Heather? I didn't catch this when it happened, but apparently in her confessional, she was like, and by the way, the dress was tight on Emily.

We Wine Whenever (24:04.822)
Yep.

We Wine Whenever (24:15.924)
Yes, I did see her say it in the confessional. I did. She should not have said it because it was not tight. It did. She should not have said that. I agree with you. That was absolutely wrong. But she even, you know, Emily even reach out, reaches over to Ryan. She's like, you see me at the gym all the time. And then they show a clip when she was working out at Cup Fitness and Eddie said to her, you know, basically you're obese based on her BMI.

Kelli (24:18.459)
She shouldn't have said that.

It wasn't, it fit her beautifully.

Kelli (24:26.504)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (24:34.78)
Yeah.

Kelli (24:43.408)
Mm -hmm. Yeah, well, I've been told the same thing. yeah. So, F those doctors. F that obese meter.

We Wine Whenever (24:47.613)
Me too, me too.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

And then Tamra tells them about the butt dial that she received from Shannon. she's still sticking up for Alexis. Like she's still got Alexis' back.

Kelli (25:02.184)
Of course she does, she tells the whole table.

We Wine Whenever (25:11.627)
And then we see, Tamar says, can we talk about the elephant in the room? So she's the one who decides to bring it up about Ryan and Eddie. I mean, I guess it had to get brought up. I don't know.

Kelli (25:27.688)
I don't know if it had to be brought up there at the dinner table and ruin all their dinner, but she just, starts yelling. She starts yelling in people's faces. I know. Yeah. You know, there's a petition going around to get her off the show. I saw it on Facebook today. I didn't sign it because I, know, listen, if I'm going to sign any petition, we all know who I'm going to sign it about. Yeah. So I didn't sign it, but there is one.

We Wine Whenever (25:31.317)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (25:35.413)
But she does that all the time. That's all she does is yell at people. I don't get this.

We Wine Whenever (25:52.341)
we do. Yeah.

those things work. Has a petition ever worked for anything ever on this planet?

Kelli (25:58.384)
I don't think so. I don't think so.

We Wine Whenever (26:04.18)
People think they're doing something. So go ahead, go send around your, yeah, go ahead, have at it.

Kelli (26:06.086)
Yeah, you go ahead. You go ahead. Yeah.

And she accuses Ryan of attacking her kids. And here's the thing. He he put up so Ryan put up a post and it was like Dick Pick dot com or something like that. And then he said the only Ryan Tamer should be worrying about is her own son, which, listen, I personally don't think that is there's anything wrong with that. And the Dick Pick reference was to him because she brought up she's so stupid. She she thinks he's bringing up

We Wine Whenever (26:34.451)
Right.

Kelli (26:38.713)
dick pic that her son put out years ago. Nobody even knew about that. He was referencing himself because of the shit you pulled the first season gem was on. She's so stupid.

We Wine Whenever (26:41.967)
No, no.

We Wine Whenever (26:49.233)
Right. Yes. But I will say the picture that he did post of Tamar and Ryan, her son, it was an old picture. Because Tamar looked very young in that picture. So it was an old picture. But again, I don't know if that's because that's the picture he found. I mean, I don't think he knew anything about that. I mean, how would he have, right? No, no.

Kelli (27:00.192)
it was?

okay.

Kelli (27:09.042)
Right.

Kelli (27:13.896)
We never heard it before. No, he wasn't attacking her kids. I mean, I don't think he said anything about her being a mom, did he?

We Wine Whenever (27:23.58)
Well, no, but that's what you know. So Tamara asked Ryan like why he talked about them on the podcast. Ryan said, well, I was a friend to you until you talked shit about me. Eddie said a friend went up to him and said, watch out for Ryan. He likes to eff married women. And Eddie says, yeah, I did say that. No, I don't think Eddie's lying. don't think he's lying. Eddie says, Ryan says, well, then why didn't you address that at the time? And Eddie says, well, listen, I'm not threatened by you.

Kelli (27:40.584)
kind of believe Eddie, I'm not gonna lie. I don't think he is either.

We Wine Whenever (27:53.669)
Like, I'm not threatened by you. don't need to address that. And then Jen asked, why are you doing this? You went after Ryan all last year and she's talking to Tamara. And then Tamara says, cause you talked about me as a mother. And that's when she brings that picture up. And it's like, no, they didn't talk about you as a mother.

Kelli (28:02.344)
Mm

Kelli (28:13.605)
No.

We Wine Whenever (28:15.462)
So Tamar says that her, okay, she talks about the dick pic. Ryan says he didn't know anything about it. He says, I apologize if you thought that that's what it was about. And then Jen asks Eddie, like, you and I were close. Like, why are you doing this? And I don't blame her. And Tamar says, Eddie says I'm not her keeper, which is true, he's not her keeper.

And then Tamra answers, well, because he's not a little bitch. Again, it's Tamra getting loud, getting obnoxious because Jen was trying to talk, listen, Eddie, you and I have been good. Yeah, you and I have been good for a long time. Like I went to your gym, we've worked out together. Like, why are you letting your wife do this? And you can see it on Eddie's face. You can see that he's just like.

Kelli (28:49.586)
Yep.

Kelli (28:55.974)
Rationally. Right.

Kelli (29:01.628)
Yeah.

Kelli (29:08.324)
Absolutely. You can see that he wants to... I mean, eventually he does start telling her to stop. Eventually he does. But it takes a while.

We Wine Whenever (29:15.054)
Yeah, right. Well, yeah, it does, it does. And then Tamar says, he's not a little bitch. Tamar says, how is the FBI? Eddie says to Tamar, stop. And he holds her face and says, stop talking. Jen says, Eddie, I hate this. Like, I hate that you're coming at us. Like, you know, we didn't do anything to you.

We Wine Whenever (29:43.555)
And then Tamar gets up and walks out and Eddie's still sitting there. She trips and she, like she doesn't fall, but she trips as she's walking out and Eddie's sitting there like, it didn't have to be like this. And he's right. didn't have to be like that. But your wife is a messy drunk. Okay, maybe she's not an alcoholic, but she's a messy drunk. And you know what? I think a messy drunk is.

Kelli (29:47.56)
Click away from us.

Kelli (29:55.344)
Mm -hmm. He's right.

It's his wife's fault, yeah.

Kelli (30:04.796)
Mm -hmm.

We Wine Whenever (30:12.207)
Just as bad as an alcoholic.

Kelli (30:13.98)
Well, the thing is, is that it's an, it's a, it's not a good relationship with alcohol. She doesn't have a good relationship with alcohol and Shannon's not an, I really don't think Shannon is an alcoholic. I don't think she depends on alcohol on her day to day. I think she uses it as a coping skill, but when I have like a really rough day, I want to have a drink when I get home. It's an unhealthy relationship with alcohol.

We Wine Whenever (30:31.797)
No, I don't either. Right.

Right.

Kelli (30:43.08)
and they probably both have it. And Tamra is, it's probably worse with Tamra because of her behavior. I don't think Shannon lashes out like that. I think Shannon calls her friends and tells them things about her relationship. And argues with her boyfriend.

We Wine Whenever (30:56.267)
Well, that's what happens. Yes, that's what happens. Like she, yeah. Yeah, that's exactly what happens. And that's pretty much the end of the episode because that's where it ends as Tamar's walking out and Eddie's sitting there.

Kelli (31:10.288)
And then Ryan says, Eddie's unemployed and their marriage is a sham. And she's just miserable and doesn't like to see anybody happy.

We Wine Whenever (31:18.944)
He says that in his confessional at the end. And then next we get, watch what happens live. And it's Tamra and Echinsue. I never heard of her before. So she's the author of Be Your Own Best Friend, but she was referring to Love Island. So I guess she was on Love Island.

Kelli (31:20.796)
Mm -hmm.

Kelli (31:31.272)
Yeah, who was that?

Kelli (31:41.672)
Yes, I agree. Yeah, I think she must have been, which by the way Tess is is watching that show right now, I guess the last season.

We Wine Whenever (31:49.857)
With, what's her name? Yes, thank you.

Kelli (31:51.824)
Ariana, she's very rarely on it, though. She only comes in for like challenges and stuff because I'm watching a little bit here and there with her. I think we might want to watch this next season.

We Wine Whenever (32:01.781)
Really? It's not too young for us?

Kelli (32:03.409)
I do.

Well, I mean, they're too young for us. I don't know if the show is too young for us. I mean, yes, they are for age. Yeah, it's just it's an interesting concept, but some of it gets mean and I'm very sensitive. Like I had to walk out of the room the other day with one of the challenges they had to do.

We Wine Whenever (32:09.03)
Okay, well maybe we'll watch it.

We Wine Whenever (32:26.571)
So is it like survivor that there's challenges?

Kelli (32:28.904)
A little bit. all these, you know, single people are thrown into a house and they have to couple up. They have to couple up. So they couple up. And then I guess the last couple standing. and people are voting at home. You can get voted off. People are voting at home. So it's kind of like dancing with the stars too. There's a lot of, there's a lot of moving pieces here, but then they have to do challenges and then they can choose to stay with that partner or pick a new partner.

We Wine Whenever (32:48.181)
Okay.

Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (32:57.802)
Okay.

Kelli (32:58.63)
And they're all they sleep in bed with their partner that they coupled up with. Yeah, but they're all in one big giant room.

We Wine Whenever (33:01.62)
They do?

We Wine Whenever (33:06.336)
So they couple up with this partner like the first day they're there and then they decide whether or not they want to stay with that partner.

Kelli (33:13.256)
throughout different challenges, yeah. It's very interesting, I had no idea. And all the while, they're walking around this big estate, you know, pool and everything in bathing suits. So they're basically naked during the whole show, except for little bathing suits. Yeah. It's not bad, it's not bad.

We Wine Whenever (33:15.603)
this sounds interesting. Okay, yeah. I'm in. I'm in.

We Wine Whenever (33:29.172)
Yeah. Okay.

No, I'm in. So then we start out after we meet Ekenso. Eddie's in the audience and Andy starts out with the Shady Boot and the Shady Boot was Ryan's confessional where he says, like you said,

Tamar takes anyone who's happy and tries to railroad them. She's miserable, Eddie's soft, unemployed, and their marriage is a sham. And he says to Tamar, like, what's your response? And she said, well, he said Eddie's unemployed, Venus CBD, and big treat. We earn more in a month than what you stole from the Dodger player. She didn't answer the question. She did not even answer the question. She did not even answer the question.

Kelli (34:07.549)
Mm -hmm.

Kelli (34:23.462)
Nope, she sure didn't.

Kelli (34:28.838)
I mean, I'm sure Eddie is running CB, you know, Vena CB Day. I'm sure he is, where he's a big part of it. And cut fitness was his gig, so I think that was an unfair statement. Eddie's unemployed.

We Wine Whenever (34:34.354)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (34:39.25)
Yeah, absolutely. And what does it matter?

I do too, but listen, he was in his confessional and you know, that's what you do. It's interesting though, cause Eddie, have we ever seen Eddie in a confessional?

Kelli (34:48.924)
Yeah, I think that.

No, and the thing is that Eddie's like collateral damage. Like, Hammer's coming hard for Ryan. And it's it's kind of silly because he's not a housewife. But that's what she's doing. That's she's choosing to do. So for Ryan to have a response about Eddie isn't so outlandish.

We Wine Whenever (34:57.66)
He is.

We Wine Whenever (35:18.322)
No, I agree.

Kelli (35:18.824)
Because he's not a housewife and he's getting dragged.

We Wine Whenever (35:21.213)
Right. No, I agree. So then we start out with the polls and the first poll is whose side are you on, Eddie or Ryan? And Eddie won obviously at 63%.

Kelli (35:33.8)
So wasn't a landslide.

We Wine Whenever (35:35.1)
No. And then it is, is Tamra's anger at Ryan warranted yes or no based on what was said on the podcast. And 75 % said no, not warranted, not warranted. And the next one was which name is worse to be called little bitch, slob or clown? Little bitch one by 84%. Didn't, didn't New Jersey,

Kelli (35:47.304)
Right.

Mm -hmm.

Kelli (35:59.632)
I agree.

don't want to be called a slob, though, but I think calling a man a little bitch is bad.

We Wine Whenever (36:06.436)
Right. Well, mean, isn't that what Teresa, she called her brother, bitch boy. And then Jen jumped in on the bandwagon of bitch boy.

Kelli (36:16.242)
think Jen called him it first and Teresa didn't stick up for him and then she started saying it. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (36:23.228)
That could be. That could be. Anytime you refer to a man as bitch, you know, not good. And then the question was, the poll was, did Terry admonish Heather on camera, yes or no? The answer was no by 89%.

Kelli (36:28.264)
It's not good.

Kelli (36:39.612)
Listen, she doesn't want to be told she's doing anything wrong. She wants everybody to tell her that everything she does is perfect, because this is the persona she wants to put out to the public, that she's perfect. She does! So when her husband said that, it was like, how dare you make it to the public that I did something wrong or said something wrong. Can't live your life like that, Heather. Stop.

We Wine Whenever (36:52.29)
Right, no I agree.

We Wine Whenever (37:04.41)
Yeah. No, but I listen, I still like her. I still think they have a great relationship and it works for them. Next question on the poll was, you get your underwear, underwear tailored? Yes or no? 99 % said no. So Ryan must've, he must've, he must've voted. Who would have made a better trader, Tamara or Ekansu? Obviously, Tamara won by 77%.

Kelli (37:08.978)
sure, Yeah.

Kelli (37:19.4)
So Ryan voted? Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Kelli (37:34.182)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (37:36.242)
Do you regret calling Ryan a little bitch and bringing up the FBI? Yes, because I should have called him a big bitch, is what she said.

Kelli (37:45.018)
Right, so she doubled downed. She doubled down on the FBI thing.

We Wine Whenever (37:46.456)
Yep. She sure did. Do you regret how many martinis you had at Katie's couple dinner? Yes, I'm not a martini drinker.

Kelli (37:57.266)
Come on, Tamara. You're not a martini drinker, but you go to a friend's house that you've never been to before you meet her husband, or maybe she's met him before, but... and you just decide to drink a martini, which is an extremely strong drink? Come on. Yes, you are.

We Wine Whenever (38:15.595)
Next one was, you regret listening to Shannon's butt dial and not just hanging out? Well, because there was a camera in front of me, I just kept listening, which I kind of get that. mean, not that it's right. I would have hung up. I would have hung up too. I would have too, because then there would have been nothing for them to show. But because you didn't hang up.

Kelli (38:28.43)
I don't... I would have hung up. I would have hung up.

Kelli (38:36.445)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (38:39.98)
there was something for them to show. Because had you hung up, it would have been a non point, right?

Kelli (38:41.681)
Mm

And we have not yet seen Shannon's reaction to that, right? Tamra playing the butt dial on air.

We Wine Whenever (38:48.875)
No.

No, no.

Kelli (38:53.264)
Yeah, because she's already been on Watch What Happens Live. Okay. Well, that'll be interesting at the reunion to see that. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (38:57.08)
And the next, yes, that will be interesting. And then the next one is, you regret calling Shannon an alcoholic multiple times this season? She does say yes. Do you regret telling Heather that Katie said Gina is only friends with you for real estate dealings? She says no, doesn't regret that. Do you regret telling everyone that Shannon owes John Jansen $75 ,000 at the group dinner? Tamara says, I said that.

And he's, and Tamara says to Andy, said that. And Andy says, yeah, you said that. She goes, no, I don't regret it. Do you regret breaking up with the Trace Amigos? No.

Kelli (39:39.59)
No, that's all right. That's gonna be hard now for her.

We Wine Whenever (39:42.217)
Yep. Then he asks, Andy asks her about what procedure she just had. And she said, well, she had a brow lift and she had the CO2 laser with the blue peel. And he said, well, Molly Sims just talked to Lisa Barlow out of it. And Tamara says, well, I'm going to take the advice of a board certified surgeon over a model who has a skincare line. So now, now she's shading Molly Sims.

Kelli (40:02.376)
Shade.

I love Molly Sims. I've always loved her since that show Las Vegas was on. one of my favorite shows. Don't be shading Molly Sims, Tamara. Fucking stump.

We Wine Whenever (40:10.11)
And I think, no, and I think that doctors did it for free for her so she would post about it because she mentioned his name and you know.

Kelli (40:19.304)
Of course! Of course!

We Wine Whenever (40:23.19)
Then Tamar was asked after berating Shannon all season about being alcoholic. Do you think that was a good look for you? You know being drunk Tamar says I think there's a difference between having an alcohol problem and just being stupid when you're drunk

Kelli (40:39.142)
Not stupid, nasty. And again, you're accusing Shannon of having an alcohol problem. Her problem's the same as your problem. can't, neither one of you can handle your liquor. And people like that shouldn't drink.

We Wine Whenever (40:41.118)
Right. Nasty.

We Wine Whenever (40:49.087)
Yes.

That's true.

And that's why Shannon isn't drinking. And she's even admitted on camera that she had a bad way of coping with her issues. She was using a maladaptive skill of alcohol instead of, you know, now she's in therapy and now she's, you know, using... Exactly. Yes. And then Andy says that the allegations of Ryan stealing have not been proven in a court of law.

Kelli (41:12.048)
Right. Doing things in a healthier way. Coping in a healthier way.

We Wine Whenever (41:25.192)
Just want to put that out there.

And now we know what happens the next day is that Ryan and I don't blame him.

Kelli (41:28.988)
Mm -hmm.

Kelli (41:34.684)
Me neither. I'm so here for that. Yeah. It's fun. I do, too. I do, It's funny because I was I was thinking about, know, I always bring it back to Jersey, but I was thinking about all of the allegations that have been thrown out there, you know? I mean, I don't I don't think anybody on Jersey either side. Have said something like that.

We Wine Whenever (41:35.828)
I hope he wins.

I hope he wins.

Kelli (42:04.55)
Like she literally said more money than he stole from the Dodgers player. Like she, I don't know. I was trying to think like, you know.

We Wine Whenever (42:18.632)
No, that's serious.

Kelli (42:20.016)
Yeah, that's very, because, I'm sorry, because there's an ongoing lawsuit about it right now. There's ongoing litigation. So she can, he can definitely, he definitely has a right to sue her for, you know, defamatory, yeah, yeah, defamatory statements, because there is an ongoing lawsuit going on. And she said that.

We Wine Whenever (42:34.996)
Slender.

We Wine Whenever (42:45.608)
Yeah, also Andy asked her, like, what are you looking forward to with the reunion? And she said, talking about the stuff that wasn't aired. So I don't know what that means.

Kelli (42:57.52)
It probably means nothing. She's so full of shit. She's just putting that out there to get the heat off of her because everybody hates her now. Listen, Teresa has her fans, right? People sticking up for her no matter what. Tamara doesn't have that. Tamara does not have that.

We Wine Whenever (43:00.731)
I still don't.

We Wine Whenever (43:16.856)
No, she doesn't. And you know, even on our post, the amount of comments that agree with us about Tamara, it's overwhelming. And something happened. don't, maybe you heard about it. So there was some podcast where Tamara said something and Teddy wound up like editing it out. Have you heard about this?

Kelli (43:23.314)
Yeah.

Kelli (43:28.474)
Yep. Yep.

Kelli (43:45.584)
I have, I'm trying to think of what it was. Because it was months ago that she said it. And they've since taken it off. I do know what it's about and I can't think of it right now.

We Wine Whenever (43:51.322)
Yes, yes it was. Yes.

We Wine Whenever (43:59.216)
I feel like Teddy's gonna go down with her. Listen, people...

Kelli (44:01.648)
Was it the thing with Teresa where she said, you remember when we were all in California together and your husband Joe Giudice was there and something happened and you don't want me to put it out there? Was it that?

We Wine Whenever (44:14.61)
It could be, but I honestly, I don't remember.

Kelli (44:17.544)
I feel like it was something else, but she did say that. I feel like it was something else, but yes, Teddy did edit it out. And I have to be honest with you. I don't listen to Teddy recap OC because I see in the comments, she is so one -sided with Tamara. And I told you that Alexia was, you know, calling Tamara out and they got rid of her. And now Erica Jane's there. I did see a clip.

We Wine Whenever (44:35.824)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (44:43.353)
Mm -hmm.

Kelli (44:47.108)
And I think Erica will, she'll say that Tamra does something wrong, but she doesn't like really call her out on it, you know?

We Wine Whenever (44:55.189)
No, I agree, because I tried to watch it too and I saw the same thing. I also saw, don't know if you saw this, the Jersey Jays, they put out another podcast. They did. So I started listening to it just because I was curious, like, did they record this after the reunion and after everything happened? Or the non -reunion, I should say. And it was recorded after that. But they just...

Kelli (45:06.921)
they did?

We Wine Whenever (45:23.043)
They really didn't say anything and I didn't listen to the whole pop. I was just very surprised.

Kelli (45:27.686)
think they're continuing with theirs and Jackie's just doing her own on the side. Maybe Jen Fessler, maybe they decided like we shouldn't talk about the show on this one. And because I think Jackie's going to talk about the show, because, we talked about this with cousin Gina. She's going to do what Raquel did. She's going to go on there and talk about the show. And nobody cares, Jackie. People probably cared about Raquel more than they care about you being on the show.

We Wine Whenever (45:48.363)
Mm -hmm. Right.

We Wine Whenever (45:54.073)
That's true.

Kelli (45:54.172)
But still, mean, but what if people listen to maybe three podcasts of Rock Hell's and they were like, all right, we're good.

We Wine Whenever (46:01.881)
So do you think Tamra's gonna come back next season?

Kelli (46:04.369)
I don't know. I think it will be interesting to see what they do. think they need, I think they need to do something like, I love, I don't want to say a total shakeup because I really do love Emily and Gina, but I don't love how Emily is close with Tamara. I don't like it because I think Tamara will flip on her in a hot second, but I think Emily's smart enough to know that. And that's why she just stays close with her. I'd like to see Emily and Gina come back. I don't mind Katie.

I don't mind, Heather. And I'd like to Shannon, Emily, and Gina come back and then see what else they decide to do.

We Wine Whenever (46:42.133)
Yeah, I'm,

Kelli (46:43.248)
I mean, they're saying Teddy, but I don't see that happening. People hated her on Beverly. I did not hate her on Beverly Hills. I will say that. Although I was watching a repeat and when they were in Versailles, think. Were they in like a French? They were in that big mansion and that at that dinner that night, I do think they were all drunk, but like Teddy and Kyle were saying to Erica, like, we don't think you have fun with us.

We Wine Whenever (46:52.171)
No.

Kelli (47:13.522)
We don't think you really want to be here. And poor Erica had like a bad migraine or something and she was like, where the fuck's this coming from? I didn't love that. But I think people hated Teddy so much on Beverly Hills, I can't see them putting her on another franchise.

We Wine Whenever (47:15.778)
I

We Wine Whenever (47:22.441)
No, no. Listen.

We Wine Whenever (47:28.941)
They still don't give her love. Like, there's still a lot of hate out there for her, which honestly, I don't get the hate. I really don't get the hate.

Kelli (47:36.12)
Me neither. And honestly, their podcast is like the always in like the top three. So people are listening. And I think she I think she's good on the podcast, Teddy. I don't like how she, you know, has Tamra's back all the time. Like you have to call her out on her shit. Come on now. Continuously saying that she has bad behavior and that makes her a good housewife. That's not cutting it anymore.

We Wine Whenever (47:42.401)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (48:00.714)
No, or just don't recap OC. You don't have to recap OC. Just don't recap. It's yes, just don't recap OC. And maybe you don't do Beverly Hills either because of how close you are with Kyle. Right? Like just don't do those two franchises.

Kelli (48:03.204)
Exactly. No, it's too close.

Kelli (48:13.212)
Right, right.

Right. Yeah, cause I don't, I don't like that. yeah. And, the Kyle thing too. She'll always, you know, and you know, she knows what's really going on because they really are good friends and probably talk every day. So.

We Wine Whenever (48:29.439)
Right.

Right. And they weren't friends prior to the show. Like they really became... No, I don't think they did either. I don't think they did either.

Kelli (48:34.426)
No, I don't even think they knew each other. No, which is great. I'm glad they, you know, formed such a closeness, but it's getting in the way of your business, of your podcast business.

We Wine Whenever (48:43.157)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (48:48.171)
Yeah, because I'm sure she's making bank on this podcast. And all of them, it's not, I mean, she does every, they're doing everything and they have all the little spin offs between the ads and I wonder how much longer the ads are going to be. Cause I feel like he's going to be so done with this.

Kelli (48:51.154)
Yeah.

Kelli (48:54.951)
Yeah.

Kelli (49:04.165)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (49:05.055)
I mean, after what just happened?

Kelli (49:07.462)
Yeah, yeah, you know, I like Eddie. I feel bad for him, but I mean, listen, you're staying around for a reason. You're staying with her for a reason. She can't be easy to live with.

We Wine Whenever (49:13.579)
I do too.

We Wine Whenever (49:19.871)
No. No, she can't.

Kelli (49:22.436)
after seeing that behavior on the show.

We Wine Whenever (49:26.069)
All right, I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

Kelli (49:28.764)
I would really like her to stop fake crying. It's so bad.

We Wine Whenever (49:33.535)
I agree.

Kelli (49:35.002)
If you could just stop doing that, that'd be great.

We Wine Whenever (49:39.625)
All right, I guess until next time thank you for watching and listening to we wine whenever I'm Wendy

Kelli (49:46.418)
I'm Kelly. Bye.