Crystals, Confessions & Cast Photos: RHOBH Reunion Pt. 1

Wendy (00:01.006)
Hello, ladies.

Kelli (00:02.779)
Hello?

Lori (00:02.85)
Hello? Hello?

Wendy (00:04.42)
So we are in New Jersey, rainy, miserable Jersey. I'm so over it. It's like supposed to be spring, goes from 40 degrees to 78 degrees all in the same day.

Kelli (00:08.389)
Mother sucks.

Lori (00:08.546)
Yes it is. Yes it is.

Kelli (00:17.305)
It's crazy. Yeah, all in the same day. I mean, honestly, you know how I feel. It can rain and thunder until April 19th, as long as April 20th is nice because I have a small house and I host Easter. However, it is getting a little tiresome. The rain is getting a little tiresome.

Wendy (00:20.484)
Yeah.

Lori (00:20.962)
but

Lori (00:30.027)
host history.

Yeah. I'm not minding the rain because I did a lot of planting last year. So I don't mind the rain because then I can see the fruits of my labor from last year, from my broken back, from my bulbs. That's how I try and look at it. Trying, trying.

Kelli (00:45.179)
That's true.

Wendy (00:46.596)
Okay.

Wendy (00:50.0)
All right, that's a good way to look at it. That's a good way to look at it. And we need it. We actually do need the rain.

Kelli (00:55.461)
We do need it. We do need it. Nobody can say we'll have a drought this summer. That's for sure.

Wendy (00:59.672)
I just wish it was a drier rain. mean a warmer rain, not so cold. I want a drier rain. You know, like a dry shampoo. want a dry rain. I meant warm. I haven't even started drinking.

Kelli (01:04.689)
Yeah, I agree with you.

Lori (01:05.807)
It's dryer rain! What?! Okay. Alrighty, Wendy.

Kelli (01:11.057)
That would be, that would really be something.

Lori (01:20.073)
lord.

Kelli (01:21.477)
The stye is still alive if anybody's following my journey with the stye. The ointment seemed to have angered it on Friday. It's calmed down though.

Wendy (01:25.39)
Yes, forced die.

Lori (01:27.04)
I hate this guy,

Wendy (01:33.413)
Yeah.

Lori (01:33.486)
Yeah, it's just that initial thing is just so pissed off that no matter what you do, I just think, you know what I mean? When you first do something to it, it's just aggravated. It actually gets better. So you know what? There's always something. There's always something going on.

Kelli (01:44.921)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (01:45.047)
Yeah.

Kelli (01:50.065)
Yeah, whatever. I had to throw out a bunch of makeup. Now I gotta go buy new, which isn't the worst thing in the world, but it's not for me. It's not. I've been on Ulta's app all weekend replenishing.

Wendy (01:56.248)
No, it's not. Not for you. Okay, good. Good. There you go. So we're going to be talking about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, the reunion part one. I'm so glad that we finally get to some part of the reunion. I wish we got a little bit more, but we start out with a little bit behind the scenes. Sutton goes over to Garcels.

Lori (01:56.448)
Yes, not bad.

Wendy (02:24.929)
trailer and she brings her gift which that's just her way of you know making things nice showing up with

Kelli (02:30.233)
Yeah. Well, and also making sure she has an ally.

Wendy (02:34.958)
Yeah.

Lori (02:35.65)
What was the gift? I don't even remember. That's how invested I am. okay.

Wendy (02:37.688)
We don't know. We don't know. We don't know what it was. We don't know what it was. And Andy asks Kyle, like in her dressing room, you what do you think of the viewers saying that there's a double standard about what others share of their lives and what they want you to share? And Kyle says, what does Garcelle share? And Sutton, okay, she has a sustainability line. So that's kind of even before they get on stage, the little behind the scenes in the dressing room.

Kelli (03:06.245)
And she said it with a undertone.

Wendy (03:09.294)
Well, yeah. Yeah. Well, those are the two that are coming for her. So those are the two that she mentioned, right? And then before they officially start talking, Garzell says, TMZ caught me coming out of the airport and Kyle said, you guys are good. And Garzell says, are we? So I guess they're not good.

Kelli (03:13.446)
Right.

Kelli (03:32.325)
Mmm.

Kelli (03:36.303)
Well, Kyle didn't even look at Garcelle when she walked in.

Wendy (03:39.733)
No, she didn't. She didn't.

And then Andy asks, now it's official, Andy's like, ask Doreed how she's feeling. no, no, this is still, they're in the back, how she's feeling today and she doesn't wanna leave her feelings, leave their feeling that she didn't say everything that she wanted to say. And that's when Andy says, make sure you don't leave anything on the table. Nothing on the table. And then they finally get out there and Kyle has her crystals next to her set up to bring her strength and clarity. I've never seen that before.

Kelli (04:08.177)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (04:11.813)
and calm. Those are big crystals, weren't they? I mean, I have crystals too, but they're not that big. Those are Beverly Hills crystals, not brick-down crystals.

Wendy (04:14.244)
They were big crystals. Well, she needed a lot of strength.

Lori (04:17.218)
Yeah. Yeah, so was just going to say those are like super duper. How about when they were in the back and I guess it was Kyle says, what do have to do to get out of today when they were like shading on something, fainting?

Kelli (04:24.817)
Those are 90210 crystals.

Kelli (04:38.288)
Yeah.

Lori (04:39.054)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (04:39.427)
Yeah.

Well, listen, that is what happened, right?

Lori (04:44.792)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (04:44.824)
It is.

Wendy (04:46.574)
Well, and then she also says, so she said this out on the floor when he asked her about her crystals. She said so she doesn't wind up in the hospital like Sutton did last year. She said that went out on the stage. And then Andy brings up that Erica song, Drip was featured in the movie, Andorra, Anorra, not Andorra, Anorra, Anorra. I didn't see that movie.

Kelli (05:09.199)
Anoria.

Lori (05:11.694)
There was a thing on post on social media and I meant to look it up and I didn't take note of the girl's name. Whoever is the singer of that song, Drip, had a social media post or somebody else made a social media post about Erica and the girl who sung the song that Erica really could have given the girl a shout out.

And didn't just said.

Kelli (05:41.967)
Yeah, well she also didn't give her dress designer a shout out. She set some random designer who apparently designs for like Beyonce and other much bigger people than Erika Jayne.

Lori (05:44.756)
No, she didn't do that either.

Wendy (05:45.882)
No.

Lori (05:52.29)
which I thought was two, two slaps that were not really good, not showing Erica at her best light there.

Kelli (05:57.873)
Totally.

Totally agree.

Wendy (06:01.772)
No, I totally agree too. That's not good. That's not a good look, right? Garcelle is congratulated on the baby. So she's, you know, has another grandbaby. And then Andy asked if LBP was in the running for a godmother. I thought that was a weird question.

Kelli (06:05.625)
Yeah. Nope. Nope.

Kelli (06:22.501)
Definitely a weird question, but he is still working for LVP.

Wendy (06:25.718)
Yes. Yep. He is still working there. And Garcelle said, she would like to be, so I don't know.

Andy announces that it was very cool to see Dorie in the pages of British Vogue. I did not know that. was... Yeah. I mean, good for her. Good for her.

Kelli (06:41.519)
Me neither.

Lori (06:41.78)
No, me neither.

Kelli (06:44.689)
Absolutely. Even though she's not British. She just talks like it. No, I know, I totally, I know, I know.

Lori (06:44.91)
Yeah.

Wendy (06:48.666)
That's OK. You don't have to be British to be in British Vogue. Andy asks, like he does every reunion, if there's any intentions. And Kyle said, feeling better than she did coming in. And I thought Garcels was very interesting to talk things through and work them out at the end of the day and actually get a cast photo. OK, how interesting is that?

Lori (06:53.038)
Yeah.

Kelli (07:00.549)
Yeah, this is something new he's doing.

Kelli (07:14.929)
Mmm.

Lori (07:17.142)
meaning like sounding like she was gonna possibly stay for the cast photo. Like it didn't sound like, my mind's already made up right now. I'm not gonna be here for that photo.

Kelli (07:17.425)
Well, I guess because last year... Sorry.

Wendy (07:25.295)
Yeah.

Kelli (07:25.669)
Well...

Kelli (07:30.769)
So I think it was because last year she left with Sutton so they didn't get a group photo and apparently the year before Kyle left before they got the group photo. I don't know what was going on.

Wendy (07:39.246)
Right, she left after the reunion. She left after the reunion, but she didn't, she wasn't there for the, because she was just done at that point. She was.

Kelli (07:47.759)
I think that was Rinna's last year, wasn't it? And it was when Cathy was on the couch with Kyle going after Rinna.

Wendy (07:57.594)
Could be. Yeah, it was a tough reunion for her. I mean, but she stayed for the whole reunion. She just didn't get the cast photo.

Kelli (07:58.543)
I think that's what it was. It was a, yeah, yeah. Yeah, she just didn't get the photo, yeah.

Lori (08:06.04)
Right, I'm just saying it didn't seem like at least or at least she wasn't making it seem like she already had her mind made up when she sat on that couch that she was done with the whole enchilada. That's all I'm saying.

Kelli (08:18.384)
Right.

Wendy (08:19.958)
rumors about that like that she went into the reunion knowing that that was gonna be it and that she was gonna blow it up I don't know if that's yeah I don't know if it's true or not I don't

Kelli (08:26.523)
Garcelle? okay.

Lori (08:28.172)
Who knows? Who knows? It's all big phony baloney anyway.

Kelli (08:33.701)
Well, it would be surprising to me because she did at one point say, I guess her glam, like here I thought they were all gonna be coming after Sutton, I didn't realize they were gonna be coming after me, right? When they took that first break and she was walking to her trailer.

Lori (08:47.916)
Right. Yeah.

Wendy (08:47.92)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Kelli (08:53.297)
So it would be surprising, but... maybe?

Wendy (08:58.832)
The next thing he says, Andy says, Dorit of the past has left the building. And they talk about how the viewers really love seeing her smoking in the car.

Kelli (09:10.789)
Yeah, because we know these housewives smoke. So this is reality, just show it. I mean, I know it's not, you're not supposed to promote bad behavior, but people smoke. Right.

Wendy (09:13.059)
Right, right.

Wendy (09:17.381)
Great.

Wendy (09:25.102)
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (09:27.34)
Well, they're certainly drinking a lot, so what's the difference?

Kelli (09:29.839)
Exactly. Right.

Wendy (09:33.668)
Then Dorit said, well, you know, she has been a social smoker, because he asked have you been smoking for a while, and a stress smoker, which that would make sense, right? And he also said that they got a lot of comments about the decisions not to tell the children about the separation. And he said, after Dagger asked you about the divorce, did you regret not telling them? And she said, no. I don't blame her. It's her decision. It's her decision.

Kelli (09:43.557)
Yeah, of course.

Kelli (09:59.665)
You know, they, my thing, cause exactly, like, listen, this is reality. I think that they need to share everything, but how they parent their kids, especially their kids at any ages, but especially those little ones, that should, that's nobody's business. That's nobody's business.

Lori (10:15.756)
No, nobody's business at all.

Wendy (10:19.138)
I agree, I totally agree. Then I was surprised with this one. Andy asked Doree if she's still in love with him and she says, yes, he's my soul. He's my blood, he's my heart, but I need peace. I was like, whoa. That honestly for me was a little bit heartbreaking. I mean, I get it, he's the father of her children, but it seems from what we can gather basically from her.

Kelli (10:37.455)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (10:47.052)
And what we've seen is that he really hasn't been there for her, you know? He hasn't.

Kelli (10:51.245)
No. If he was taking...

Lori (10:53.272)
Well, she certainly hasn't felt like it.

Wendy (10:56.729)
Right.

Kelli (10:56.805)
Right, and if he was taking off for weeks at a time, yeah, I mean, that's nuts with little kids like that. If your kids are adults and grown and out of the house and that's your job, okay, but it's hard to, or at least if you do have that kind of demand on you for your job when you're home, make the most of it when you're home. Didn't seem like he did. I think he was out.

Wendy (11:01.003)
Months.

Wendy (11:22.49)
Right.

Kelli (11:25.871)
I think PK enjoyed the limelight of being a house husband.

Wendy (11:30.096)
No, I do too. I do too. Speaking of which, did you happen to listen to the latest Bravo docket about PK?

Kelli (11:31.609)
And boy, George's manager.

Kelli (11:38.477)
No, but I saw that they did one. I'm going to try to listen to that.

Wendy (11:40.832)
boy, we'll talk about that at the next reunion because I have to write down some notes. But boy boy. Yeah, yeah, he's got a lot going on. Yes and from like, yes, yes. Then Andy said we asked PK if he wanted to appear and he declined but he sent a statement.

Kelli (11:44.272)
Okay.

Okay, I'll definitely listen to it then.

Kelli (11:51.67)
Really currently now, presently.

Kelli (11:58.053)
The past. Okay, I'll definitely listen.

Wendy (12:08.756)
and then Andy reads his statement. I didn't write down his statement, but basically what he was saying is that he wants the record to be, you know, cleared up, that he is a good father.

Kelli (12:21.273)
Yeah, it was all about her saying he wasn't a good father. Right.

Wendy (12:23.818)
That's really what he took offense to, I think. And didn't you get that out of that, Lori? Yeah. Andy, Dorit said he could have, know, Andy asked like what her thoughts were about his statement and her response was, well, he could have been here, which honestly, I think was the perfect response. Like, why am going to respond to his statement? I'm not going to respond to that. I said what I had to say. If he wanted to come here and say that and have a conversation, then show up, right?

Kelli (12:43.439)
Yeah. Right.

Lori (12:45.454)
Yeah.

Kelli (12:50.469)
Right. Did you see the face that Sutton made when Andy asked Dorit if she thinks that PK thinks that her fame changed her? The face that Sutton made. just at the thought of him talking about Dorit's fame. That's how I took it. Sutton was like rolled her eyes like whatever.

Lori (13:06.704)
no, I didn't see it.

Wendy (13:07.854)
I didn't see it.

Wendy (13:17.176)
What, that she's not famous or that she has changed?

Kelli (13:18.571)
Yeah, like Sutton, she's been here longer than you and she'll probably be here after you because you're just not that interesting. So yeah, she made a very snarky face, I thought.

Wendy (13:24.856)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Wendy (13:34.678)
Andy asked Kyle if she thinks fame changed Dorit. That was a loaded question. Kyle said, this season I've seen a part of Dorit that I didn't know. She seemed angry and more aggressive, which.

Kelli (13:48.251)
Well, you're texting her husband and she's separated from him and didn't text her right away.

Lori (13:48.856)
Well, happened. Yeah.

Wendy (13:51.65)
Well, I mean, that all happened before she even knew that. She was angry and aggressive before that even, before she even knew that. Because they weren't speaking. They weren't speaking from last, from the year prior.

Kelli (14:00.603)
But, right. And then they start filming and then she did know it when they started filming.

Wendy (14:08.408)
Yeah, once they started filming.

Kelli (14:10.395)
Yeah.

Wendy (14:12.464)
Andy asked Dorit about calling PK a monster while speaking to Kyle. And Kyle, you said in your confessional that you've never seen that side of PK. So Dorit said, that really hurt me because you're supposed to know me better than him. So why would you see that side of him? All you know of him are the memes that he sent you. Which I can see where that would hurt her because obviously if her friend is saying,

that he's a monster, you only see him when he's out in public with her. You don't know what goes on behind closed doors, right? You don't know what goes on behind closed doors. I mean, that would bother me too.

Kelli (14:45.937)
All

Lori (14:48.323)
Right.

Kelli (14:51.951)
Yeah. Right.

Wendy (14:56.302)
And then Kyle brings up, well, you said that he wasn't a good father and you called him an alcoholic. She said, he said he was an alcoholic, which he did. And Kyle said, no, he never said that. He said he stopped drinking. She said, said publicly, he publicly said that, he did.

Kelli (15:11.333)
He did. He did.

Wendy (15:13.644)
This is where I didn't like it, because then Sutton chimes in. Looked like you were throwing your husband under the bus and you said it over and over and over again. Okay, Sutton, this was not a spot for you to jump in. You had nothing to do with this conversation.

Kelli (15:16.495)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (15:29.572)
And that's why Dorit goes back at you because you jump into something that you're not involved in.

Wendy (15:39.17)
And then Dorit said, well, it was over course of a week and I was telling different people, which actually I'm glad that she explained that because she did say it a lot and she was telling different people, you know?

Kelli (15:50.961)
How about, did, because I don't think we knew this. Kyle sent her text to Dorit after Erica mentioned that Dorit said to Kyle, no, Dorit said to Erica, nobody has reached out to me. And then Kyle text her.

Wendy (16:02.861)
Nobody texted me.

Yeah.

I did know that because I remember her saying she had it all ready to go, but she didn't know if she should send it. Like she... Because they weren't speaking, they weren't on speaking terms.

Kelli (16:15.569)
How do you not know if you should send it? Like you, I know, but you've been friends with her for so long. Like I've done that. I've, you know, haven't spoken to somebody and then, you know, you find something out and you're like, my God, like you reach out, you know?

Lori (16:33.482)
And wasn't part of the problem too is that before she texted Dorit, she had already texted PK. I think that's part of the problem too.

Wendy (16:33.508)
Yeah.

Kelli (16:43.781)
Yes.

Sure, sure.

Wendy (16:50.288)
Let's see.

Kelli (16:52.091)
Sutton, well, how about, I mean, PK must be drinking again.

Wendy (16:56.996)
Well, yeah, Andy asked how long PK has been sober and Dorit said it's not a topic we discuss.

and

Lori (17:04.858)
Or it could have been that he told her, look, don't talk about my drinking on TV at all. Don't, don't talk about it at all. You know what I mean? It was kind of, it was a little cagey. Like you could, like taffy push or pull that in a certain way. Cause the wording.

Wendy (17:11.524)
My sobriety. Right.

Kelli (17:15.661)
That's true because of-

Kelli (17:24.977)
You're right.

Not only that, but because people think she's going on and on and on and saying, he's an alcoholic, over and over and over again. Maybe they did just come to that agreement, like, I'm not gonna speak on your sobriety anymore. I'd never thought of that. I just assumed it was he's drinking again and she's not saying it.

Wendy (17:41.604)
Well, right.

Wendy (17:46.394)
Well, because then Andy flat out asks, is he drinking again? And Dorit said, I have no idea. He said it's something that he chooses not to discuss with me, meaning her. So, you know, we don't know. But I didn't like that people are like, okay, well then that means he's drinking. No, that's not what that means.

Kelli (18:00.728)
Yeah.

Kelli (18:04.099)
Yeah, no, I... Right. Right.

Lori (18:07.32)
But that was a shady piece of work on the part of production too. I mean, come on.

Wendy (18:12.985)
Yeah.

Wendy (18:16.432)
Andy asked what she thinks the forensic accountants will find if they actually get divorced. I mean that was a stupid question, seriously.

Lori (18:25.006)
You know, it's a stupid question.

Kelli (18:26.287)
Yeah, nothing, Andy, they have nothing. They have your paycheck. That's what they have. They have their Bravo paycheck, basically, and whatever boy George is throwing to PK.

Lori (18:28.45)
Yeah, probably nothing. a big fat nothing. Right. Yeah, probably. Exactly. Right. Right.

Wendy (18:31.906)
Right.

Lori (18:39.726)
Right.

Wendy (18:41.168)
And that's when Sutton kind of jumps in too. know, Dorit says, you have lot to say about my finances. And she's like, well, it's because I care. She's like, no, you don't care. And she's like, well, I care about women. She's like, is your name on the mortgage? And what?

Lori (18:55.49)
You know, it was so funny. It was so funny because it's the same thing as on the boat. Like that same word, women. Like she's supposed to be applying that in this conversation to one woman, which is Dorit. But then she switches it around to mean, no, I mean all women. And then the other week, Erica said women when she, when

Wendy (19:08.858)
Right.

Kelli (19:13.382)
Right.

Wendy (19:18.893)
Right.

Lori (19:23.67)
It was clear that she was talking about that group of women.

Wendy (19:24.25)
She had already named. Right, right.

Kelli (19:27.824)
Yeah.

Wendy (19:30.788)
Yeah, but so she asks Sutton, Sutton asked Dorit if her name is on the mortgage and Sutton's like, do you actually think I'm going to sit here and answer your questions? Which I loved that response.

Kelli (19:40.165)
Me too, it's none of your business. It's none of your business. You don't care about her. You're throwing an interface that your wallet's bigger than hers. So what is she gonna talk to you about this for?

Wendy (19:46.637)
Right.

Exactly. Yep. Andy did ask about the foreclosure and she said that the house was under pre-foreclosure, which that's true. I mean, that happens. And the way she explained it about the, you know, changing the rate and PK, you know, stopped paying until they would get everything figured out. And then when they got everything figured out, he continued to pay. So, who knows?

Kelli (20:00.367)
Yeah.

Lori (20:15.03)
And who knows? Who knows? Yeah.

Kelli (20:17.807)
I mean, listen, I don't think it was a matter of PK waiting for a callback. However, right. However, I will say this though, you know, because of what we do, I work for a law firm that does bankruptcy and loan modifications and mortgage companies do drag their feet getting back to people about these things. So it could be true, but I don't know. I just, tend to believe that this is not true in their case, but I could be wrong. I could be wrong.

Wendy (20:22.522)
Well, that's what she said.

Lori (20:36.515)
yeah, they do, they do.

Wendy (20:46.488)
Yeah, listen, who knows?

Lori (20:50.102)
Now, how about when the viewer wrote in and said, this season feels like Dorit came in hot vying for her job. And he asked Kyle about that. And Kyle says, it did feel like that to her. And because it was like the Dorit she didn't know. And then Dorit says, yeah, but Kyle, you you have relationships with production and you knew I had my job. So.

then why did you and Kyle was just like, well, that's what I said and I stand by it. It was just weird. It was just weird.

Wendy (21:27.728)
That was weird and just so you know, I think that scene was only on peacock.

Kelli (21:28.955)
Hmm.

Yeah, because I have no idea what you're even talking about. Mm-hmm. I didn't see it.

Lori (21:32.35)
really? Really?

Wendy (21:33.786)
That scene was only on Peacock. Yeah, because I watched it in the DVR. But you wouldn't have known that. I watched it in the DVR. And then just today when I was scrolling through social media, saw that clip that you just, and it said, yes, and it said it was only seen on Peacock. I was like, So I'm glad that one of us watches Peacock. mean, sometimes I do, it just depends.

Lori (21:37.518)
okay.

Kelli (21:41.018)
I have to start watching Peacock.

Lori (21:50.21)
You saw what I'm talking about.

Kelli (21:57.296)
Yeah.

Wendy (22:02.17)
So that scene was only on Peacock. So if people are listening to us and they don't know what we're talking about, it's because that specific scene was only on Peacock.

Kelli (22:09.593)
Yeah, see I like watching it on the DVR because you can fast forward to the commercials. Peacock has very limited commercials, right?

Lori (22:10.06)
There you go.

Wendy (22:13.572)
Me too.

Lori (22:17.004)
Yeah, tell me it's not bad. Yeah, whatever. That's what I got,

Wendy (22:17.008)
Sometimes they have more than others. I know, I know. So let's see. Let's see. Dorit said, as of a week ago, I've chosen not to have a relationship with PK. He sees the kids on Saturday night if he's in town. That doesn't sound like a lot of time with the kids.

Kelli (22:19.471)
Yeah, I hate that.

Kelli (22:24.977)
Yeah, no, I ain't got it.

Kelli (22:39.291)
That's not a lot and it's only if he's in town.

Wendy (22:43.019)
Yeah.

Erica asked if she's scared. She said, I'm not scared. I'm hurt. I'm shocked. I finally started to realize what I believe was going to be my future is not going to be. And, you know, I think that's where she's at. I think she's being real.

Kelli (22:59.193)
Yeah. And again, you know, we know people who are divorced that they don't necessarily miss that person. Although it does seem like Dorit does miss PK. They just miss their original family unit being together. Which is, that sucks. That sucks. You don't have kids with somebody planning on not being with them.

Wendy (23:15.053)
Right.

Lori (23:18.092)
It does.

Wendy (23:19.331)
It does suck.

Wendy (23:25.796)
And I mean, he has three older children. you know, he's in a totally different space than she's in.

Kelli (23:33.318)
Yes.

Wendy (23:35.968)
This year we met Boz. says people thought she should add one more credit to her resume. Dorit's spokesperson. I thought that was funny. Because she is very accomplished.

Kelli (23:45.584)
I was.

Lori (23:45.678)
Ha

Kelli (23:52.305)
She sure is.

Wendy (23:53.262)
That's when Garcelle came in. Garcelle said, when Dorit and Bo's are together, it's just the two of them. Bo says she watched the show beforehand, which I'm glad she admitted it to it, because most of the time they're like, no, I never saw it before. Right. Of course you're going to watch it.

Kelli (24:05.649)
and they're full of shit. Yeah. Of course. Even if you weren't a fan before, you're gonna watch it to see what these women are like, what you're dealing with. Yeah.

Wendy (24:14.68)
You want to know what you're getting into. Right, yeah. She said, I thought this was also, glad to hear it from her, that she thought that the show had been played up a bit, that the emotions and everything, the drama was exaggerated, but she's like, nope, that is not.

Lori (24:15.072)
One should certainly hope.

Kelli (24:34.351)
And I loved that she said she met with Garcelle prior to filming and said, what's the deal? And Garcelle said, nope, you have to figure that out on your own. I thought that was awesome of Garcelle.

Wendy (24:41.337)
Yes.

Lori (24:43.65)
Mind out. Right.

Wendy (24:47.702)
I did too. I did too.

Kelli (24:49.945)
Not like those Potomac girls, not like Karen Huger, right? Having her preemptive strike meeting with all the newbies. Yeah, I thought that was really great of Garcelle to do that.

Wendy (24:52.137)
God. Right? Yep.

Wendy (25:02.992)
I did too.

Lori (25:03.406)
I was smart of her. I was smart of her too.

Kelli (25:05.178)
Very smart.

Wendy (25:06.84)
Yeah. Andy apologizes to Bose for losing her Malibu house. again, another stupid question, what it meant to her. Well, she's like, it was 25 years of hard work to get that house and now it's gone. mean, again, what a stupid, I hate when he asks these stupid questions.

Kelli (25:21.883)
Yeah, stupid question, Andy.

Lori (25:21.934)
Yeah, that's what it is.

Kelli (25:27.323)
I know. Well somebody else wrote them for him. So you can't really be too hard on him. But he's reading them. Like, skip that one, Andy.

Wendy (25:30.032)
Mm.

Lori (25:31.212)
Yeah. Right.

Wendy (25:33.464)
Yeah.

She said moving, then they wanted to know, a viewer wanted to know about her fertility journey. And she's currently in the process of retrieving eggs. And she says it's frustrating to hear other people's opinions about her hopes and dreams and desires. And I believe that. She's being open and vulnerable. And she wants another kid. And to hear people judging her and telling.

Kelli (25:58.395)
Sure.

Wendy (26:07.202)
I can only imagine what that's like.

Wendy (26:15.93)
Then Garcelle talks about the only time that she had a problem with Dorie and Bose's relationship is when the two of them were just sitting there talking at the end of the table for an hour. I was like, yeah, I don't really think that that's true. Right? mean, who cares?

Kelli (26:30.971)
Who cares?

No!

Lori (26:37.89)
Yeah, who cares?

Kelli (26:40.453)
I mean how long are you sitting there filming? I highly doubt they were only talking to each other for an hour Even if it were a half hour or 45 minutes who gives a shit you're there you're there for hours

Lori (26:53.208)
There's other people at the table. Come on.

Kelli (26:56.079)
Right!

Wendy (26:56.312)
Right, exactly. And they were at opposite ends of the table. They were literally at opposite ends of the table.

Lori (26:59.596)
Yeah, stop it.

Kelli (26:59.601)
Right.

Yeah, that was a reach. That was a big reach.

Lori (27:04.941)
Yeah, that wasn't right.

Wendy (27:05.327)
And then Gar- then Gar- so I was like, everyone had a problem with her relationship with Sutton, so, you know, why would I say anything about someone else's relationship? Right. Right. Exactly.

Kelli (27:16.379)
But you did.

Lori (27:16.398)
That's right, you should.

Wendy (27:22.552)
So then Bo said, what rubbed me the wrong way about the conversation was that there was a belief that I was being manipulated by Kyle and I did not think she was being manipulated. By Dorit, right, right. Kyle said that she didn't think that she was being manipulated. I don't think she, I mean, listen, she's not someone you can manipulate. And it's an insult to her to think that someone can just manipulate.

Kelli (27:32.123)
By Dorit, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lori (27:33.208)
By Doreen,

Kelli (27:43.483)
Exactly.

Lori (27:43.7)
No, there's no manipulation going on.

Wendy (27:51.53)
blind loyalty, you know? It's an insult to her.

Lori (27:54.318)
Right. Like she said, if you think for one second that there's something that she can say to me that would influence my opinion of you, then that means that you don't think very much of yourself. That was Baz speaking to Garcelle. And I think that's certainly true.

Wendy (28:02.969)
Right.

Wendy (28:08.218)
Garcelle, right.

Kelli (28:12.785)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (28:13.464)
Yeah, absolutely. And then Garcelle is questioned about Kyle and Sutton's relationship and Sutton's loyalty to Kyle because we know that that's Garcelle's biggest problem is that she feels like Sutton is blindly loyal to Kyle and doesn't have Garcelle's back like Garcelle has Sutton's back.

Then we hear, didn't know, I didn't see this entertainment tonight thing. On entertainment tonight, Erica said, we want to see Sutton and Garcelle open up more about their real lives. And Garcelle said, what else would I show? And Erica's like, well, we want to know who you're dating. Andy said, well, what more do you want to see? And Erica said, well, I guess you were, I wish you were more interesting. That was mean. That was mean. That was mean.

Kelli (28:59.185)
That was mean.

Lori (29:00.744)
that was nasty. She said, yeah, I just wish you were more interesting. That is nasty. She did some nasty shit. She was nasty. Yeah. Uh-uh. Some throw pillows. Come on. Yeah, she was a little nasty. Mm-mm. Mm-mm.

Kelli (29:02.501)
That was real mean.

Kelli (29:06.885)
Because honestly, what did Erica have going on this season? Erica didn't have anything going on this season either. She fucking redecorated her house. Come on. Yeah. Yeah. So Erica, nobody sees who you're dating either, by the way.

Wendy (29:16.055)
Yeah.

Kelli (29:23.663)
That was mean.

Wendy (29:23.696)
don't think Erica is dating anybody serious. don't think, I mean, she's having sex. I mean, she's open about that. That doesn't mean dating, though I would, I...

Kelli (29:27.217)
but she's, she's, she's exactly. Okay, but show, show that, show who you're having sex with. If you're asking Garcelle to, then you should too.

Wendy (29:37.488)
Well, I mean, I think a boy toy and a relationship are two different things.

Kelli (29:45.147)
But she said we know Garcelle's sleeping or however she worded it. She wasn't even making it like she was dating somebody. She was just asking who Garcelle was messing around with. So, you know, then you show it too, Erica.

and not your interior designer.

Wendy (30:04.494)
Yeah, she got a lot of shit online for that. Did you see all the people talking about spending all this money for a rental? Why don't you... She was getting a lot of grief for remodeling her rental. I guess it is a rental. I don't know if it is or it isn't. I really don't know.

Kelli (30:21.745)
kind of feel like if it were, she wouldn't even be allowed to do all that. mean, listen, I don't know many landlords. I know the crazy one who owns the house next door to me, and she wouldn't let you do a damn thing in that house.

Lori (30:39.374)
Well, a lot of times too wallpaper now is, it's like a stick up. Yeah, you can take it off. So there is that.

Kelli (30:44.432)
because you could take it off.

Kelli (30:49.553)
But she did the whole kitchen, didn't she? Oh no, no, no, no, she didn't. She didn't. And even the cabana, like even that was just paint and yeah. Yeah.

Lori (30:51.808)
No, no, she just did wallpaper. No, no, it's just all yeah, and furniture.

Wendy (30:53.078)
No, it's not like she moved any walls or anything.

Wendy (31:00.174)
Yeah, and furniture. You know, it's all stuff that you can, yeah.

Lori (31:05.27)
Yeah. So she's, she's definitely, she's definitely been a little, she'd been a little nasty. Erica,

Kelli (31:06.459)
I guess she plans on staying there for a while.

Wendy (31:08.784)
Yeah.

Kelli (31:12.153)
I didn't like that she said that to Garcelle.

Wendy (31:14.122)
No, I didn't like that either. And then, let's see.

Kelli (31:25.819)
So it's interesting that Kyle keeps saying Morgan didn't choose this life. Morgan is a country singer, correct?

Lori (31:36.482)
Yes, she's not some...

Wendy (31:37.014)
She didn't say this life. She said she didn't choose to be on this show.

Kelli (31:40.913)
Oh, I have in quotes, didn't choose this life. So my question was, does she mean a life in the public eye? Because isn't she a country singer? Like I didn't know who she was, but I don't really listen to country music. But if you're in that industry and you're a country music fan, wouldn't you have known who she was? Wouldn't she have been photographed? And you were on the show last season. So.

Is it that you didn't choose this life or did you not like the way things went last season and now you're choosing not to be a part of it?

Wendy (32:18.554)
Well, I definitely think that's it. I mean, she did choose to be a part of it last season when she agreed to come on the show. And Kyle said she did that as a favor to her. And then when that became the whole storyline, whether or not Kyle and her were in a relationship and if Kyle was a lesbian, she's like, don't want to be known as the lesbian singer that's with Kyle Richards. I have my own identity. I'm a country singer. I don't want to be known as, because I guess she didn't realize how big the

Kelli (32:24.527)
Right.

Wendy (32:47.364)
the Bravo platform and how opinionated the Bravo fans are and how they come for every aspect of your life. I mean, I totally understand that. I understand that she was like, okay, yeah, I'll be on the show with you, Kyle, with her cute little Southern accent. And then all of a sudden she's like, shit, what did I do? I'm not doing this anymore. I don't wanna do this. And I think she has every right. It's not like she was getting paid.

Kelli (32:47.793)
How's Wives was? Yeah.

Kelli (32:53.241)
Right. Yeah.

Lori (32:53.515)
Nasty.

Lori (33:09.218)
Yeah.

Kelli (33:15.258)
she definitely has every right. She definitely has every right. But she had to know that there was gonna be some public attention by being on the show. Like you can't say I didn't sign up for this when you sign away, you physically sign a waiver signing up for this.

Wendy (33:25.572)
Again, I don't.

Wendy (33:30.124)
She, well she, she did for one season and then she didn't for the next season.

Kelli (33:37.19)
Right, but you have to know going on a show like this, you're gonna get some, look at the comments we get and we're just talking about the show.

Wendy (33:40.964)
But you don't though, I mean you know what it's...

Lori (33:46.702)
lord, the nasty, nasty, nasty people over a fake ass TV show played by characters that everybody wants to believe that it's 100 % their life, but it is not. It is a produced show and people come so hard and nasty. It is unbelievable.

Wendy (33:50.08)
Yeah!

Kelli (33:51.649)
I mean...

Kelli (34:08.805)
Yeah. I'll tell you what, listening to Crystal and Cynthia is so good because they say it, like the producers are in your ear, like you should ask this. And who else was I just, Kristin Cavallari, because now she's talking about the hills and Laguna, obviously that started it all. But really the hills, like I think Laguna, I think Laguna Beach was originally.

Wendy (34:10.661)
I don't know.

Wendy (34:19.811)
Right.

Kelli (34:35.055)
truly a reality show, but once they got to the hills, that was overly produced towards the end. So you're right. You're absolutely right.

Lori (34:40.27)
And I think, I think Dorit is almost like the poster child for a post that I just saw the other day from Bethany Frankel. And Bethany was like, part of the point that she keeps trying to bring up is that the whole atmosphere of the Real Housewives is just, it's inbuilt toxicity. It's like,

Because you're trying to, you have to have the right wardrobe. You have to have enough money. Like you have to be seen to have enough money. Like, and I'm sure for Dorit, you know, because Andy asked her, you know, is your glam obsession part of the problem with PK? And she said, yeah, it's a, you know, a portion of it. But that whole, you understand what I'm trying to say? That whole mechanism of Bravo and Housewives and

Kelli (35:37.392)
Yeah, and-

Lori (35:39.778)
trying to keep up with the money and that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. And that can really, I think it can really mess up your life.

Kelli (35:40.783)
And Beverly Hills is even a, it's just the highest. Yeah. The standards are so high.

Kelli (35:51.503)
The expectations are super high, I should say.

Lori (35:53.044)
Yeah, like just trying to keep up with everybody and, know, who knows what, how many times you mortgage this and mortgage, cause you've got to keep up with what's being shown. I'm not saying that's necessarily what happened, but I'm just saying it certainly could be.

Wendy (35:53.434)
They are.

Kelli (36:09.509)
Well, I mean, not to bring it up, it's all alleged, but look at Teresa and Louie. Like that probably, if that's all true, what's going on with them, that's what they're doing. They're just...

Lori (36:24.194)
But I'm saying that, but that's part of that ugly machine that Bethany was talking about. It's the keeping up with the Joneses, but it's on purpose through Bravo, through the shows. And it just brings out really like a bad side to people.

Kelli (36:27.771)
Sure. Sure.

Wendy (36:43.246)
No it does, I totally agree.

Kelli (36:44.197)
And then you have Tamra who is, I was listening to her cover Southern Charm today with Trishelle and they're like, you need a villain. You have to have a villain. It's like, but you really don't. You don't. And of course Tamra's like, you're welcome.

Wendy (36:56.644)
No, you don't. No, you don't. You don't have a head, you don't. Right. I know. I think one of the things that really set Garcelle off is when Kyle said to Garcelle, you know, I explained this to you off camera. And then Garcelle said, well, why did you say it off camera? And Kyle said, well, because I'm, you know, you're my friend.

And then Garcelle asked Sutton, what did you say after she walked away? And Sutton said, I think she wants to protect Morgan. And Garcelle, that's not what you said. You said that that was a chess move.

Kelli (37:38.971)
So who's the real Bobby Fischer here? LVP must have loved that.

Wendy (37:40.949)
Right. Right. And then Kyle said, the thing is with both of you, the two of you together are mean girls.

Kelli (37:50.241)
I could not believe Kyle, of all people, said that. She's the ultimate mean girl.

Wendy (37:54.32)
Yeah.

Kelli (37:58.417)
She does it to be funny, but she's a mean girl.

Wendy (38:03.47)
Yep. And then Garcelle said, how about the time when we were in Chuck E. Cheese and you and I laughed about it. And then you went on the after show and you said, she's a fucking asshole. Kyle said, you said that intentionally, you know, on camera about her being a lesbian.

Kelli (38:16.741)
Yeah, on camera.

Lori (38:21.144)
Well, she did.

Kelli (38:21.905)
That's the thing, Kyle, all of America just wants you to say either way. Either way. I mean, I understand now she's saying.

Wendy (38:23.096)
Yeah, she did. She did.

Wendy (38:31.984)
I don't. I don't want. I don't really care. could care less. I could care less. I really could care less.

Lori (38:33.87)
I don't either. Me neither. I could care less.

Kelli (38:36.369)
I mean, I don't really care. It's just, you can't expect, you can't expect to carry on a relationship with this woman, Morgan Wade.

You're always with her and people to not question it. Let's just put it that way. You can't expect people to not question it. So for Garcelle to bring it up on camera, okay. She didn't say anything so out of line. People are watching.

Lori (38:47.628)
And people not to be curious.

Lori (38:55.512)
Right.

Lori (39:03.47)
But this is a thing. This is a thing. If Garcelle and Kyle had a conversation and Kyle said, look, I'm kinda in this thing. I'm kinda not in this thing. I don't really know where it's going. She's not comfortable being the show. I just really don't wanna talk about her anymore. I just don't wanna, you know, I don't know what I'm doing with it. I really don't wanna talk about it. Can we not talk about it anymore on camera? And then they go to Chuck E. Cheese.

Wendy (39:03.694)
Well... Yeah.

Lori (39:31.766)
and she steamrolls with that, then I can see Carl being like, kind of fucked up.

that I can.

Wendy (39:40.708)
That is, and the whole thing, you know, if the whole thing, if you want to be a lesbian, then be a lesbian. Outing someone's sexuality is a big thing. It's just something that you shouldn't be doing. You just shouldn't be doing it. You just shouldn't be doing it. It's not right. Like, if she wants to talk about it, she'll talk about it, but she made it perfectly clear on camera in the beginning of the season that she was not going to speak her name.

Kelli (39:49.969)
Mm.

Kelli (39:56.081)
That's true. That's very true.

Wendy (40:09.668)
wasn't even gonna say her name because she didn't wanna be talked about. She said that in beginning of season.

Lori (40:13.932)
Yeah, and she obviously does not want to talk about it. So I think that as much as you are on a reality TV show, you still should give people passes on certain things.

Wendy (40:19.011)
Right.

Kelli (40:20.625)
But at the same time...

Wendy (40:33.444)
Yeah, you don't have to be invited into my bedroom just because I'm on a reality TV show. Seriously, you don't.

Kelli (40:37.891)
No, I get that. But at the same time, she's saying, I'm not gonna talk, I'm not talking about her, I'm not mentioning her name. She's in, she's in social, she's all over social media with her. They're still being photographed together. Kyle does post, she does post things with her. She's not the only one.

Wendy (40:44.559)
Right!

Wendy (40:49.178)
She's not posting her. She's not posting her.

Lori (40:56.322)
Yeah, but she can, right, but she can still say, I'm not gonna discuss it on the television show and still have a relationship with her. It's not like she's gonna say, I'm not gonna discuss it on the show and then I'm just gonna be like totally secretive with this relationship, whatever it is. Also, like you can have both those things. You can say, look, I'm just not gonna talk about this on the show. And he could still...

Do whatever the fuck you wanna do with the person.

Wendy (41:31.824)
Yeah. I agree too. I don't think that everything has to be in our face. I really could give a shit who she's dating. I think that there's other things going on in her life, like her situation with Mo, her daughter's getting married. If she wants to talk about that, talk about that. There's other things.

Lori (41:32.482)
That's just how to how I look at it.

Kelli (41:44.009)
yeah, me too.

Kelli (41:57.307)
Which daughter's getting married? Because Farrah's not anymore, right?

Wendy (41:59.968)
No, the other one. Alexia? Alexia.

Lori (42:06.37)
I think so.

Wendy (42:07.608)
Yeah, Alexia. Alexia. But then after that whole thing, then Kyle's telling Garcelle that you were mad at Sutton for not having her back and that that goes, and she goes, that's between me and Sutton. And Kyle said, no, it's between you and Sutton because she didn't have your back to go after me. And that's what Garcelle was about. Garcelle was mad at Sutton for not having her back to go after Kyle.

Kelli (42:07.799)
one who, yeah, okay, right, right.

Lori (42:27.618)
Which is true.

Wendy (42:36.214)
I agree, like that's not what it's all about. That's not what it's about. And that's how, that's how Garcelle felt attacked because she was being called out on what was happening. She brought it up on camera. She was putting it in Kyle's face. She's mad at Sutton for not having her back to go after Kyle when she knows that Sutton craves Kyle's attention and she's friends with Kyle.

Lori (42:58.158)
Well, even with not being, know, even if you take the being friends with Kyle and the adoration and whatever out of the equation, it's still okay for Sutton to say, she don't want to talk about it. I'm not gonna keep on about it.

Kelli (42:58.255)
I think the thing, god.

Wendy (43:17.507)
Right.

Right. Right.

Kelli (43:21.521)
But I think the reason Garcelle is getting so upset is because she and Sutton are talking about it off camera. And Sutton has a certain opinion about it off camera, but then when they're in front of Kyle, she flips, just like the chest, you know, yeah. I think that's the problem.

Wendy (43:28.066)
Off camera. Right.

Lori (43:31.979)
off camera.

Wendy (43:32.644)
Yes! Right!

Lori (43:34.862)
She's doing something else.

Wendy (43:38.096)
Well, Sutton said, Sutton said, respected Kyle's wishes and I didn't want to talk about Morgan on camera. didn't want to talk about this. I respected her wishes. And that's where Garcelle couldn't handle that because like you said, she was saying other things off camera. And

Lori (43:39.212)
Right, absolutely.

Kelli (43:57.819)
So who are you being the better friend to then? You're being the better friend to Kyle.

Wendy (44:02.66)
You're being the better friend to Kyle, but as a friend to Kyle and a friend to Garcelle, you should have the conversation with Garcelle off camera. Listen, I'm not going to throw Kyle under the bus, so don't look to me to do it. This is my opinion off camera, but I'm telling you this right now. We are friends and I'm not throwing Kyle under the bus. I respect her wishes. Don't come to me and expect me to have your back on this, because I'm not going to.

Kelli (44:14.511)
Right, right, right.

Lori (44:16.397)
Right.

Right, it's off camera.

Lori (44:31.31)
But in the end, as an adult,

shouldn't Garcella have been like, okay, well, just because we talked about this off camera doesn't mean, you know I mean? But there's stuff all the time in Housewives that I look at and I say, oh my God, why is this such a big fucking deal? But it's a show, you know? It's a show at the end of the day.

Kelli (44:52.753)
Well, exactly.

Wendy (45:03.214)
Listen, I was sad to see that Garcelle left, know, announced that she was leaving before we even saw the reunion. But I understand why she's leaving because I feel like she's been there five years. What else is she going to do?

Kelli (45:23.835)
She came on with Denise having a long standing friendship with Denise and she really did ride for Denise. mean, the whole thing they did with Denise and Brandy, she never flinched Garcelle. She never once swayed away from having Denise. I mean, thankfully for her then she established a relationship with Sutton. Cause other than that, she's not close with anybody.

Wendy (45:33.476)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. yeah.

Wendy (45:42.958)
Right.

Wendy (45:52.922)
She's not.

Kelli (45:53.745)
Why would she stay? And it's a shame because I liked Garcelle. I really liked her a lot. I love seeing her family, but she's got nobody there.

Lori (45:56.035)
Yeah.

Lori (46:02.682)
I think she's smart. think now is the time for her to get out. I think she's absolutely on point. It's good. It hasn't gotten super, super low, super, super nasty. There's been no big, huge, you know.

Kelli (46:08.049)
For sure.

Kelli (46:16.699)
Yep.

Wendy (46:19.951)
Right.

Kelli (46:21.263)
I mean, cause then we get into the whole PK thing and her intimating that, you know, or insinuating that PK set up the burglary, which she'd never really. Wait, did she say it though? They, they rolled the tape. She int.

Wendy (46:33.488)
She did intimate it. She said that Dorit didn't have anything to do with it, but she thinks somebody did.

Lori (46:36.878)
She did.

Lori (46:40.718)
But somebody did.

Kelli (46:43.065)
Right, so she never said PK's name, but you knew who she was talking about. And that's very dangerous because that's insurance fraud, that's so, I mean, look at the guy who paid the people to pretend to beat him up, right? Who's that guy? Isn't he in jail? He's not in jail? well. You don't accuse someone you work with of doing that.

Wendy (46:48.472)
Right.

Lori (46:49.067)
And she said,

Lori (46:54.762)
It's not good.

Wendy (47:01.824)
No, he's not.

No.

Lori (47:05.102)
But it's just not a good look. Like, where are you going with it? No. No. And if that's how you feel, go ahead and feel it. But don't say it. Don't say it. What are you doing in your workplace? Yeah, it's just not a cool workplace move. No.

Wendy (47:11.737)
No.

Kelli (47:16.527)
Yeah, yeah, because we're like, you know, you're just going to get them in a lot of trouble.

Wendy (47:16.663)
No, no.

Wendy (47:23.951)
Yeah.

Kelli (47:27.151)
Yeah, so when that came up, think maybe she was like, all right, you know.

Wendy (47:27.297)
No, it's not.

Wendy (47:33.262)
Yeah, there was a lot in this episode that was against Garcelle, but honestly, it's all things that she caused and just people calling her out on it. You know, it's not like she was innocent in this.

Kelli (47:41.689)
Yeah, and I don't think she liked what Erica said either. I thought you were more interesting, because that's like the kiss of death for a housewife. Yeah.

Lori (47:47.234)
That one telling you she's nasty this Erica lately. She's been on a nasty streak, man.

Wendy (47:47.831)
No.

Kelli (47:53.795)
And again, what is she, she doesn't really have anything going on either. So she should be real careful. Although did you hear a rumor that she's leaving?

Wendy (48:03.5)
No, where's she going? She needs a paycheck. She's not going anywhere.

Kelli (48:05.569)
I know, but I thought I heard, not that, I mean, I thought I heard that she got fired, but I doubt they even did anything yet, contracts are

Wendy (48:17.552)
Garcelle did double down on it when Andy asked Dorit how she felt about Garcelle saying that. And Dorit said, I don't understand how you could talk about something that was such a devastating part of my life. Garcelle's double down was, well, that was my feeling and I'm not gonna talk about it anymore. Because Garcelle said, I feel how I feel. I feel how I feel. And Dorit's like, well, but it's based on nothing.

And that's the point is it's based on nothing because there's no facts or anything to substantiate what you said.

Kelli (48:52.889)
No, and I forget who was talking about it. I know who was talking about it, Tamara and Dolores, and Dolores was a cop. So Tamara's like, well, you know, the whole thing with him leaving the cell phone. And Dolores was like, of course they're gonna leave the cell phone. If he brings the cell phone with him, you could track him. And Tamara was like, I never thought of that. And I never thought of that either. But that was like the big thing in question. Like she asked him to leave the cell phone and he did. Like what burglar would do that?

Wendy (49:10.532)
Right.

Lori (49:10.883)
Yeah.

Wendy (49:14.191)
Yeah.

Kelli (49:21.349)
Well, somebody who doesn't want to get tracked down because they got your cell phone.

Lori (49:24.504)
I thought it was her phone. I thought it was her phone that they left. but again, you can track it. Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (49:24.57)
But even Andy said that.

Kelli (49:28.141)
It was her phone. He left it.

Wendy (49:28.194)
It was her phone, but if they have it on them, right. But Andy said that. Andy said, I think it's because they gave you the cell phone back and the alarm wasn't on and Garcelle, yeah, that's why. So Andy was like trying to protect Garcelle in this, after he threw her under the bus, he's like trying to protect her.

Wendy (49:54.946)
And then Erica said, Andy, Dorit said, I'm going to at least tell you how I feel about my husband. I feel you how my husband would have to have been a sociopath to not care about our children and to send people to our house. And I agree with her. Like, you know, like, come on. Her kids were there.

Kelli (50:10.853)
I agree too.

Wendy (50:17.988)
But then Garcelle doubles down again and says, am I the only one that felt that way? Like, does she expect people on the couch to jump in and say, yeah, I felt that way too? Did she really think that was going to happen?

Lori (50:23.566)
It doesn't matter.

Kelli (50:25.221)
Well, even if it.

Kelli (50:29.913)
Right, right. And what Loree said is like, definitely doesn't matter. And just what you said, even if they did feel that way, are they actually gonna admit it now? Like, fuck no, I'm not admitting that. I'm sure everybody kind of had a question. Well, I'm sure Kyle did because Doreen went to her house that night and you know, that was the whole thing. But even if there was the slightest ounce of doubt, you're not gonna say it now.

Wendy (50:38.576)
Right. No.

Lori (50:41.368)
Right. Right. Right.

Wendy (50:51.011)
Right.

Kelli (50:58.063)
and look like a complete asshole.

Wendy (50:58.358)
No. No.

Lori (51:00.79)
No, so that's definitely something she should have just never said in the first place. It was just not a good move.

Wendy (51:08.322)
No, I totally agree. Then they break for lunch and Sutton says, everyone hates me. And I'm like, what are you talking about? Like, I have no idea.

Kelli (51:18.329)
She's so annoying. What was she talking about? Garcelle just took, you know, was stepping over grenades for most of that reunion and Sutton's crying that everybody hates her.

Wendy (51:35.972)
Yeah, mean, Garcelle says I didn't expect to be the one that was gonna be in the hot seat. That's what, yeah. And then Sutton goes into her room and asks how she's feeling and she's like, not great. I'm damned if I do and I'm damned if I don't.

Kelli (51:39.791)
Right.

Lori (51:49.454)
And Sutton made it all about her.

Wendy (51:51.588)
Yeah.

Kelli (51:51.985)
100%. That's really an art form when somebody can do that.

Lori (51:56.076)
Yeah, like, why'd you even ask her when you first walked in? Because you obviously didn't give a shit how Garcelle was. All you wanted to do was pile on her about your feelings.

Wendy (51:56.205)
It really... it...

I know.

Kelli (52:00.082)
You don't care.

Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (52:08.844)
Yeah, I know it's crazy. And then we see Bose is talking to Dorit and saying the Garcelle situation that we're talking about is not anything casual. Like you can't say something serious like that and not expect repercussions. And you can't. I mean, those are serious things to say.

Kelli (52:10.929)
crazy.

Lori (52:24.587)
And you can't.

Kelli (52:28.549)
Yes.

Wendy (52:30.684)
And then we see next week we get to see Cathy and Jennifer come out. I'm excited for that. think at some point she is and I'm here for it. That would be Lori. That would be Lori. Like she's like eating her popcorn as they're fighting, you know? It's like she's watching the show. I am so here for that. I cannot wait for that.

Kelli (52:36.187)
Is Jennifer really eating chips or something while she's sitting there?

Lori (52:36.226)
Yeah.

Lori (52:40.046)
That would be me. That would be me. Yes, I've eaten my chips.

Kelli (52:42.865)
simple.

Kelli (52:46.821)
Yes, yes, that's great.

Lori (52:46.882)
Yes, yes.

Kelli (52:53.157)
Yeah, that's gonna be good.

Lori (52:53.966)
Me and Jennifer are reaching into our cleavage so we can get out our candy. Eat it. Yeah.

Wendy (52:56.912)
Yeah.

So funny.

Kelli (52:59.697)
You're hard candy.

I had two other things to bring up real quick. One is I don't know if you know this but Candy Burris has made Broadway history with her production of Othello who apparently Denzel Washington and Jake Gyllenhaal are starring in. That's fucking amazing. That is amazing. 2.8 million in seven shows. So that was one thing.

Wendy (53:07.386)
Okay.

Wendy (53:11.492)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (53:20.322)
Wow.

Wendy (53:20.366)
Yeah, I told you that. Yes.

Wendy (53:29.4)
Yes, she's going to get the EGOT.

Kelli (53:33.733)
God bless her, man, she's really doing it. And the other thing was I saw something and then I tried to look for more information and couldn't find it. So I don't know if Dolores said this on one of the podcasts, but supposedly Dolores said that Louie reached out to Frank.

or Teresa reached out to her to see if Louie could reach out to Frank about these liens, these tax liens, like they were looking for, which I love Frank Tanya, but he is a disbarred attorney. I don't know if you wanna go to him for advice right now. He used trust fund money that doesn't belong to the firm.

Lori (54:13.728)
Yeah, no, I'm not going in for like legal advice. Nope.

Wendy (54:13.974)
You

Kelli (54:26.413)
it belongs to the clients to pay his employees. So you may not want to go to him for advice, but I read that where Dolores said it, either Teresa, I think that's what it was. Teresa reached out to her to see if Louis could reach out to Frank. But then I couldn't find anything else about it. So I really don't know if it's true or not.

Lori (54:46.862)
And there was a

Wendy (54:47.17)
I did hear that too, but I don't know where I heard it either.

Kelli (54:50.832)
Yeah.

Lori (54:51.022)
There was a TikTok by Up and Adams saying Louis was on.

Lori (55:01.966)
Tick tock, do it.

Wendy (55:04.411)
yeah, he's trying to get people, he's trying to

Lori (55:05.581)
Trying to do some kind of like creator thing on TikTok. Yeah, I didn't look at it and see what it was, but.

Wendy (55:12.249)
Yeah, that's what

Kelli (55:12.315)
He wants to like say we wanted to like do a brand deal with somebody. He's gonna connect us with the brand, right? Am I understanding that correctly?

Lori (55:19.896)
think that's his... Yeah, think that's basically what he's doing. I don't know what the fuck he's doing, but he's trying to do some bullshit is what he was trying to do. That's all. That's all. Yep. Nope. Nope.

Wendy (55:21.156)
He's going to teach people how to sell in the TikTok shop on TikTok. Yeah.

Kelli (55:25.137)
he's gonna teach you how to do it. He's not making any connections for you. this sounds like a real, exactly. sounds like a very lucrative, honest business.

Wendy (55:29.262)
I don't think so.

Wendy (55:41.392)
Speaking of TikTok, ladies, by the way, I figured out today how to post a video and put the link in it on our TikTok to buy a We Wine Whenever sweatshirt. So it's up there now. You guys can follow the link and purchase.

Lori (55:56.91)
listen, this stuff takes us a very, very long time to figure out. So if we tell you, if we tell you that we have figured out some small thing that you younger people like, duh, five minutes to figure out how to do that. There are technological advances. We need just realize what it took to get there. Yes.

Wendy (56:04.098)
It... It does.

Wendy (56:12.75)
Yes.

Wendy (56:19.204)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (56:21.595)
Just know it's been months in the making.

Wendy (56:24.142)
It's like us going to the moon. Let's just put it that way. By the way, the video that I posted of myself modeling the sweatshirt is horrible. I will make another video and swap it out. But I was just so excited to get this up and to get the link and it actually worked. was like, I'm like, you know what? It's our first step on the moon. We'll get better. I'll get better at it.

Lori (56:26.154)
It's a lot.

Lori (56:43.948)
We figured it out.

Kelli (56:44.016)
Yeah.

Kelli (56:49.433)
One step at a time. That's amazing. Thank you, Wendy.

Lori (56:49.944)
There you go. There you go. It's not easy.

Wendy (56:54.0)
Yes. So yeah, you can look forward to that. And we look forward to it too, because honestly, I'll be honest with you guys, we have not made one red cent. This is costing us money. yes, so if we... We're spending money and we enjoy doing it. Well, some of us do. Yeah, but if you could support us at this point by purchasing a sweatshirt, that'd be great.

Kelli (56:57.019)
That's great.

Kelli (57:05.245)
it's costing us money. Not only have we not made it, we're spending it.

We do enjoy doing it.

Wendy (57:19.394)
Every little bit helps. And by listening, we love our listeners. mean, commenting and listening and five star and the five star reviews. We love that.

Kelli (57:19.493)
Yeah, man.

Yes, absolutely. And commenting, yeah, because we love the interaction.

Lori (57:22.925)
Yes.

Yeah. And we'd love to know if there's any other topics that you would like us to divulge into further besides Housewives.

Wendy (57:36.175)
Yes!

Kelli (57:36.271)
Yeah, for sure.

Wendy (57:38.764)
Okay, until next time, bye.

Kelli (57:40.859)
Bye.

Lori (57:42.072)
Bye.